http://SupremeMasterTV.com – Be a Torchbearer for God - P3/3 November 25, 1999 Johannesburg, S. Africa (In Sepedi). Episode: 1702, Air Date: 13 May 2011. Script
*What is your opinion about the apostles? Where is Heaven? Is it part of this universe?
The apostles? They were Jesus' closest disciples, to spread his message when he was not there, give people initiation, explain how to meditate and all that. And Heaven is not a part of the universe. Heaven is our own creation, our own attitude. For example, when you are happy, you are in love, you feel you are in Heaven. No matter where you are, you have a little hut, you're happy. And when you are sad, when somebody threatens you, when you are under pressure, you live in a palace, you feel like hell. So if we are in contact with God, every day we feel like Heaven. That's why we say Heaven can be here and now. Lo and behold! The Kingdom of God is at hand. It's not far.
*In our culture, we slaughter an animal as a sacrifice. Is this a sin?
It's your way of life - you choose to live that way if you want to. You are a God. You decide what you make of yourself. If you would like to represent yourself as a person who slaughters animals to make offering, then you do that. If one day you decide, Okay, I don't want to make myself a slaughter-person, then you change, you don't slaughter anymore. You make yourself a representative of non-violence and non-killing. It's your choice.
It's no sin in the eyes of God, it's just your choice to make yourself what you want to show to yourself or want to show to the world or want to show to God.You can introduce yourself as, Okay, I am an engineer, I am a priest, I am a teacher, I am a yogi, I am a vegetarian spiritual practitioner, or I am an animal slaughterer. Yes, whatever you want to. It's up to you.
I am not here to condemn anybody; just to lay down before you different choices that you could make or want to make or maybe think about making. Anytime we can change our life by making different choices, andthat's for sure. No sin in the name of God - no sin! God always loves us. Whatever we do is for our own experience.
*Dear Master, should we devote our lives to serving the poor or sick, or would we be interfering with their choice or karma (retribution)?
No, no. No. We should devote our life anytime we can, and devote anything we can, to help our brothers and sisters, be it spiritual or material. Yes? We are one. If he is hungry, you are hungry. If he is thirsty, it's like you are thirsty. It should be like that. It's not a must, it is a feeling inside. If, for example, if you see somebody hungry and thirsty and dying, and you feel very painful as if you yourself are in that situation, then you help him.
That is a measurement of your love, of your level of compassion. It's not a must. It's not a precept to follow; it is a feeling in your heart. If you know you feel you should help that person, that means you have love in your heart, and you should be happy. That's the only reward, that knowing that you have love. And you should do it. Thank you.
*I feel a lot of love, but trapped inside me. Can you help me spread it around the universe?
You spread it. It's your love. If you love, do something. If you love, just like if you love a boyfriend or girlfriend, tell her, tell him you love him, do something for him. Give her flowers, hug, kiss, make love, do whatever. So, the same, if you love all human beings, then do something about it. Do something you think that would let people know your love, or shower them with your love. Do it. You know what to do. You have God inside you. Do it honestly with your feeling. Everyone does it differently. I cannot tell you what to do.
*As you said, there is no hell after death. What happens then, to those who do not follow instructions and the scriptures of the Lord?
What happens? They have to learn again the lesson of love. Maybe they have to learn it in a hard way, and that we call hell. He has to go through also suffering in order to understand that the suffering is no good and that he not do it again. So, in a way, he'll be in a hospital, kind of way, so that he can heal the part that was sick.
Anyone who inflicts suffering upon someone else, he's sick somewhere in his spiritual being. So after he gets healed, he becomes whole again.
So there is no hell, no sin. There's just the way people chose to live their life that leads to different consequences. That's why in the Bible it tells you: Whatever you sow, so shall you reap, Judge not so that you will not be judged.
If we don't want to reap the bad consequence of the future, then we have to sow good seed right now, see? That's why the Bible gives you guidance like, okay: Shall not kill, shall not commit lie, shall not steal, things like that. Make it a guidance through our lives so that we reap the better fruit for the future.
* If you have faith in God, why should we suffer and our prayers cannot be answered?
Because you have to rise up to God consciousness to know this, and then you will be content.Even when you come back to this physical life, after you have seen how much God loves us, through the spiritual knowledge, you come back to this life, you don't complain no more. You know everything, why this happened, why that happened - everything is for our best benefit. We will be always grateful every day. You have to know God first, yes.
* How important is ten percent of whatever you earn important to God?
It is important, because you love. It's your love. It's not the ten percent, it's the love that goes with it. It's the love to share whatever you have with other people who are less fortunate. That's important.
*When one rises above the physical body, how would it be possible to differentiate true situations from, for example, hallucination?
Yes, there is a way to differentiate. I will teach you at the time of initiation. But only people who want to go deeply into the spiritual dimensions should learn much about all these things. Just the convenient people and all that is not really... because you don't meditate too long, you don't go too deep. So it's not very risky.
Bigger business is more risk. So we have to show you the way to protect yourself. But if you just meditate for 10 minutes, 20 minutes, it's okay. There is nothing to bother you. You just relax, calm your mind, you do better business, sleep better, eat well. That's it. Know God now and again. There's no danger.
*Is it necessary to attend church every Sunday so as to be reminded, or one can still remember oneself by communicating with God by heart?
By heart. Yes, if you can. If you can communicate with God by heart, you can pray in the closet, the way it is stated in the Bible. The church came after Jesus. The church is an organization that gathers people who have faith in God and who want to pray together. It's similar to our group, every Sunday we gather together in one place. It could be called a church too, but we call it a meditation center - and we meditate the whole day that day just to remember God intensively, more than other days, because we're always busy every day.
So that's the meaning of really going to the church every day - to get more communication, deep communication, with our true Self, with God. And it is stronger when you meditate together.If you want to sleep and you see the neighbor is sitting straight, you feel ashamed, so you also sit straight. That's the purpose. And you help each other in collective energy. But if you already know God, everywhere you sit is the church. You should go to church every day inside, not just Sunday.
*I want to know where is the true secret of God, and being a vegetarian, can I smoke marijuana?
Yeah, yeah. Marijuana is vegetarian, right? I know what you try to say. Anyhow, where is the true secret of God? That, you have to find out. I will show you how to find out, but you have to find yourself. I can't explain God in the physical terms. The more I explain, the more I mislead you. Yes? I can show you God. That's all I can do. And marijuana, as far as I am concerned, is not really necessary for your vegetarian diet. So do not include it in there. Even though it's a vegetable, it's not a very conducive vegetable to your meditation, so please refrain from using it.
*He also wants to know if he can eat marijuana, then.
You are so hungry! Not only you want to smoke, you eat it. My God! So much vegetables, you don't have enough? I advise you to eat tofu. Yes. You can fry spinach. It's better for you. Anything, anything that makes our consciousness blurred and not clear, this is not a God way. God's way - no need physical aids, no need anything because God is God! You can't change Hirm, you can't make Hirm come nearer, you can't bring Hirm where you want just because of marijuana or anything else.
You can only know God. That's it - and pure, simple, know God. Just concentrate, forget the world, and concentrate on God's side, then you will see God. I just show you how, that's it. There's no need for anything. And the vegetarian we eat, it's just because we just have to eat a little of something to sustain this body. So do not go too deep even into too much of vegetarianism. Anything we eat to sustain the body, enough nutrition, to keep our spirit alive, that's good enough already. We are not here to eat. We're here to know God. All right?
*Question from the same person: Am I poor because of my thinking or my belief?
We are poor because of our belief. But it's too late now. Our planet has been led into believing that we have been sinful and we're being punished for our sin, and all that stuff, and so... We should live a rich life here, but before this era, we had a golden era. Have you heard about it, right? In the Golden Age, right? - long ago.
In that age, people know God, believe in God, because they see God, they feel God's love. And at that time, there was no teaching such as a revengeful God, jealous God, or there's no such teaching as hell, because everywhere was Heaven. But then, some bad people invented this kind of fear, so-called, to control the population. And slowly, slowly, this fear crept into our consciousness and we began slowly to believe that we are sinful, we are bad, we couldn't know God because we are forsaken, we are born in sin, we always sin, and everything we do is sin.
So our consciousness has become conditioned that way. That's why we also failed in our business, we became poorer, we became deprived of many comforts, including material ones. But it's a little too late now to change drastically. The whole consciousness of the planet has been engrained into this way of thinking. But it's not too late for you. If you are ready to change, change it today. Believe what I tell you, and experience the love of God within you every day. Then you will see how your life changes. You will know God is really love and whatever you ask for is already there.
* What is the difference between your way of meditation and talking or praying in tongues? Because it is said that talking in tongues is talking to God. How true is that?
Both are true. Different levels of understanding about God. In our way, we don't talk even. We don't even talk with the mouth or the tongue. We don't use anything of the physical instrument. We go direct to Heaven, enjoy the carefree life without this physical body. And God doesn't speak to us in the human language. Hes does also, sometimes. But we don't speak it out loud, or we don't need to do anything, we just communicate; and we understand in a Godly way, celestial way, which is a silent way.
*Dear Master, what are your hardships that you have experienced in your walks of life? Please share with me.
Well, I do not consider really anything a hardship, even though in those moments I do complain. Well, like all of us. I complain, I say, Why? I don't like it! But, of course, I know it is good for me. Any hardship would strengthen our spirit and determination to find God, to let us know that as long as we still cling to this physical, ephemeral existence, we always will encounter hardship. There is no hardship in Heaven.
So whenever we leave this body during meditation or deep contemplation and go to Heaven, we experience all bliss and beauty. And then when we come back even to this physical body, still some blessing's leftover so that our life becomes even smoother and better. So even hardship is just a blessing in disguise. No problem. I can write a book about hardship, but why? I'd rather write a book about the blessing that I enjoy.
*Dear Master, thank you for your wisdom. How would you choose a successor to continue your physical work here after you leave us?
I haven't decided yet. That is up to God to decide. When the time comes, the Lord will let me know. And I'll let you know... maybe. Or you have to find out yourself. Okay, if I have one, I will write it down -name, place, date of birth, then you can identify him. He probably has a nose in the middle, two ears…
You can find him, or her, whatever. But I haven't decided yet. I haven't found one yet. Sorry. You hurry up, and maybe God will tell you that, Okay, you are the successor, and then you tell me.
*Who is the devil? Where does he come from? Where will he eventually end? Why does God not destroy this devil? Is the devil part of this oneness you are talking about?
Yes, he is part of the oneness. He works for God so that we know what's right, what's wrong, so that we know to resist temptation, so that we can improve ourselves and go nearer to God. All right? There is no such thing as devil, actually. Just trial, just test, just training. We train ourselves. If we want to train ourselves in a hard way, we chose our way of life in a hard way before we're born, to train ourselves to experience the things that we want to experience in order to find God, in our way.
*Dear Master, tarot cards, auras, Reiki healing, is this bad, even if it's done for the benefit of others?
No, it's not bad. I told you, everything is different levels of understanding about God. The nurse is not bad, the doctor is not good; they are just working in different ways. Different jobs. But if you want to be a doctor, then you have to stop being a nurse and study more. That's what it is, all right? Become the healers without healing, like Jesus.
*How do I overcome all these problems I have and get my focus back and be forgiven for my wrongs? I would love to change my life and be a good man again.
Yes, then change it. First, whatever you don't like about yourself, change it. For example, you used to tell lies, now don't. Just tell the truth. You used to take things from people, you stop that and you give your things instead, or get initiation and get enlightened.
*Is there such a thing as bad luck or curses upon you? And when does it ever set you free?
Nobody can curse you, no bad luck can harm you, if you choose to walk the other way. Right? Just walk the other way. Walk the way of God, then all bad lucks will leave you. But sometimes, because of the bad karma (retribution) you have already created, so the consequence still lingers for a while. Just bear it. We don't live here long. Don't worry.
*Why can we not be initiated and be unrestricted? Why can we not eat meat and drink alcohol?
So you want to be a flesh-eating God and drunken God? You already are! If you eat meat now and drink wine, you're already a drunken God and meat-eating God already, every day. I thought you want to change to something different. If you don't want to change, then just stay where you are. You already are God.
But if you want to change to a higher level of yourself, then you have to leave a little of these lower kind of substitutes to find a more noble, higher intoxication in the love of God and more refreshment in the flesh of Jesus, in the spiritual flesh of Jesus.
*There are many religions, such as Christianity and traditional African religion. Which is the right religion for Africa? Also, by practicing other religions, does that anger our ancestors?
No. No. Every religion is good for Africa if you believe in it, all right? I am just showing you the way to truly contact the source of your religion. There is only one God, and people find different ways to go to Hirm. It's just sometimes they get lost in the maze, so I am here to show them where to go, the shortest way. I don't come here to change your religions. And your ancestors will never be angry with you because they will be liberated through your enlightenment, through your blessing.
*Thank you for coming to South Africa and bringing your love and peace to our people. I hope that your endearment is passed on to our people in South Africa.
I hope so, too. Thanks so much for your love. I think so. The South African people are so, so enlightened, so intelligent. I think we understand each other perfectly, yes.
* Everything is free. Please tell us who sponsors you.
I earn my money. I am a designer, don't you know? You see, we didn't bring all my creations here, but you could see some in the pictures. I design jewelry, design clothes. I don't wear my own today, I wear yours in respect of your country. In the Bible, it says that you must earn your own living by the sweat of your brow. So that's what I do.
Apart from sharing with you the blessing that God has permitted me to do, I have to also earn my upkeep for the physical needs. I need transportation, I need a car, I need airplane ticket, etc., so I earn the money just like you do, and I share whatever I have with other people. Apart from what I need, I have surplus. I share with the other brothers and sisters. Nobody supports me. I support people. God supports me, yes.
*When you gather together on Sundays, do you eat Holy Communion in remembrance of our Lord Jesus Christ?
When I go to the church on Sunday? (Yes.) Yes, I do eat the Communion bread, but the one you could not see. Yes, the real “flesh” of Jesus. I don't cut his flesh and eat, but I be one with him. That's my Communion bread. I have that every day, not just Sunday.
*In Africa, it is said that we have a high rate of HIV (AIDS). Does God curse or punish our continent with this incurable disease? How can we be saved from this disease?
In every country, there are information centers about AIDS or about any disease that you happen to worry about, yes? Find out from information and take care of yourself physically. Otherwise, if you practice spiritually also and you keep the precepts and you have vegetarian diet, you lead a spiritual life, you never have to worry about this question.
*Is the Golden Age a sign of the second coming of Jesus? What is the Golden Age?
The Golden Age is the time, like once, or long ago, or many times ago, when we experience oneness with God, and everything that we wish for is fulfilled instantly. We can experience the Golden Age right now if we have this connection with God. Every day is a Golden Age to the Quan Yin practitioners.
*Please explain to me properly, where do we black people come from, because we do not exist in the Bible. Is it true that we are cursed children?
No! Are you kidding? You see, you see? You see? This is the doctrine of fear, the doctrine of separation, the doctrine of condemnation and humiliation that people long ago tried to inflict upon the human race to divide us and to rule us. Because united we stand, divided we fall, and they know that.
Oh, my God! Why do you ever ask this question? It should never even come up! This is just a different color! It's just like flowers here. Look how many colors in here. Suppose we are all white or all yellow like me, wouldn't it be boring, our planet? Then I don't have South Africa to come to. I don't have a different color to look at. When I look at you, I think of chocolate. Yum, yum!
My favorite color, yes! Yes. And you know, all colors are beautiful. There is no difference! Just different flowers. I don't know why this question even comes up. But I know why, as I explained already. This is the trap, this is the tricks of the bad ones who try to get power over people.
Not only they try to divide us from God, make God a fearsome person or being, as a revengeful and a punishing God, but they even divide us people as a whole, as a human race. Try to tell the white people that black are bad, and try to tell the dark people that the light-skinned people are evil. Every generation, we've been brainwashed into thinking like this, and that's how we've become, like, confused, and then we try to think again, “Is it true what he said?
Maybe it's true what he said.” Tell me why the black people are cursed? Tell me why! One good reason why. Can you answer why? If you cannot answer, that means that doesn't exist, the curse. What's the difference between the dark color or the light color, the yellow or the red?
What is the difference in here? You know why you are black or you are dark, because you are too near the sun! Hide yourself inside the house! No, I told you already, God is a colorful one. Hes is artistic: Hes makes different fruit's color, Hes makes different flowers' color, so Hes makes different dogs' color., Hes makes different elephants' color, Hes makes different birds' color, Hes makes different humans' color. We should be happy! Hes is great. We are great.
Anyhow I like chocolate, so I don't care. Should never, ever think like this. Never this question should arise in your mind. You are great! You have a very, very long and deep, deep, deep spiritual tradition. What do you mean black people are not mentioned in the Bible? How about the Egyptian, Cleopatra? She was black! Moses, yes? The Egyptian people, where Moses was raised, they are also colored, they are dark colored.
Do you mean they are not mentioned in the Bible? Does it have to say dark or black in order for you to identify yourself? You are a human being. There's no black, no white, no yellow - nothing. We are God's children. That's it. Yes, no problem at all. I don't see why there's any problem. I don't see why! How can you see any problem with the colors of the flowers? I don't understand this. You know what?
Have you been to Holland, any of you? Okay, some of you, right. Do you know in Holland they cultivate black tulips, yes? And they are the most expensive and rare, because we don't have that many. See? When you don't have black, they have to create it, you see?
Suppose we don't have dark people here, we have to create it, genetically matching, in order to get a black one, and then it will be, Oh my God, he is black! Oh, my God! You know what I mean? It's like the tulips, the dark tulips. It is a very dark tulip. It's not born like that. They match the genetics. They create it by scientific means. And I have seen a patch of them - beautiful! Very dark and beautiful! And very rare.
The whole gardens are full of different colors. Just one little batch is black tulips, and they're called the King of the Night or Queen of the Night or something like that. Beautiful name. Suppose we don't have dark people here, or chocolate people here, then we will be missing something, you see? And then we will have to try hard in the laboratory in order to create a black baby. And then we will hold it up: Oh, look at him! Isn't he beautiful?
See what I mean? So God already knows that. Hes created for us, so we should be very grateful, happy and proud, yes? Proud to be colored! Yes, thank you. But this problem has been too long, so it doesn't matter how long I speak, it doesn't seem long enough to erase the long-standing misunderstanding of the colors of God's creation.
You know how much money all the people in other countries have to spend on the beach, how much suffering they have to lie in the scorching sun, in order to get the color you have? Come on, you're kidding!
So you are a millionaire. A walking, inborn millionaire. Only millionaires in America or elsewhere can have the kind of color you have, because they spend a lot of time and money in the sun. Do you know that? You know that! So next time don't ask me this question. Tell yourself that you are a millionaire - inborn, born millionaire. No need to roast yourself on the beach for hours on end. It's a big suffering to get the color of the people of Africa.
*Master, I want to know: When I saw your picture, something struck me - I had the feeling of coming here to meet you, in fact, to see you physically, and when you entered the hall, I did feel like crying. Is it because I was feeling you, or I was getting the fulfillment of knowing God?
Could be that. Could be that you feel the God within me that's manifesting the love for you. Not that Hes cannot manifest within you also - Hes could! If you have chosen the way of God, Hes will manifest also. See, I have chosen to walk Hiers way, so you can feel more obviously.
Because I am with Hirm and then other people are more with the world, more worried about the world. I am more about God. Therefore, you can feel more God's presence in such a person; for example, maybe me. So that's why you feel happy or you feel emotional.
Otherwise, we don't know each other, why should you cry when you see me? Why should you love me and want to shake my hand or hug me? Must be something. “As you sow, so shall you reap.” Be it the world or be with God. When we are with the world, we manifest more worldly atmosphere and people recognize that more. And when we are with God, we are more radiating God's atmosphere, and people feel that because the God in you feels that.
*Thank you, Master, for coming to South Africa. We welcome you with open hands.