Possible Perpetual Energy Solution

it is easier to put a water wheal (just like in a wather mill) that drives a turbine ,
u ar using the elevetion af the watherto generat power , and that has alreadi ben invevted
thei are cold Hydroelectric Dam

I know Im not the first to point this out on here but I just had to comment. I really fail to understand the point of the helium ballon and all of the complex trap doors and magnets, etc. Basically you have water flowing from a high level to a low level due to gravity. All you seem to have done is make something simple complicated. The only part of your invention that is necessary would be the turbine. Simply put blades on it like a pinwheel or a propeller and it will spin-causing energy which can be converted into electricity by a generator. If you have the blades flat and stick just one side in (like a steamboat) then you will have recreated the waterwheel. Something that has been around since even before the official discovery of electricity. Before electricity waterwheels where used to turn (by means of gears and pulleys) simple mechanical devices and machines. Unless I am missing some huge concept here there is nothing perpetual about this machine, It simply keeps running by means of water flowing downhill. Put into a very fast stream or better yet a waterfall, It will certainly run for as long as the waterfall is in existance (which makes it a very good and green way to create energy). However there is nothing new or novel about this idea except that by using helium and trap doors and such it is simply made less practicle. To call it perpetual is misleading.......it is as close, to perpetual as we may be able to get, but it is no more perpetual than solar cells, wind turbines, or even perhaps a sterling engine using geothermal heat.

it's like saying that there is no energy input in the case of a windmill....of course there is...just that in your case it would be potential energy

basically you are disregarding any outside sources of energy that have not been supplied by people....not a good idea for perpetual energy concepts...

and furthermore, the design is just plain impractical....imagine how much helium you would need to do this on a large scale...

well how would we exactly make this trap door if it hit the magnets the magnets would trap the trap doors from opening and if this would hapen how would the magnets activate the trap door

but even if it did work, it couldnt be considered perpetual energy because magnets do wear out after a while (i think like 400 years)... but thanks for sharing, 5*

You tried your best. You share your thoughts, and you gather more input. Too many of these major A-holes don't understand what true science is.
NOBODY gets anything right the first time all the time. We learn from trial and error. These pricks bash your ideas as if they could do better, but yet offer no assistance.
Present flaws are always hardest to see when you are constantly looking toward the prospects of a better future.
keep trying. keep thinking.

I want to nevertheless encourage you to keep trying. Learn from the feedback you got here and keep trying. Hey, sometimes it takes thousands of tries to get the right results. Hey, ask Alexander G. Bell... it took thousands to tries to come up with the right filament to create the first light bulb. So don't let the criticism get you down... okay.

The only thing I think this would need is a human powered push every 2 months. This isn't perpetual motion, but this is a very good idea. Can you please post this on Instructables?

The reason for the science behind how much mass helium can lift is to explain that this would not be a table top experiment but a 12 foot diameter... something, possibly a cylinder. The system would not be slow as many people think.

The magnets are there to hold the water tank up high until it has MORE water than the helium can handle so that it falls quickly. Then on the way back up, the helium will provide 50 pounds of lift to crank a geared down turbine.

This is a very preliminary explanation of the idea, I wanted to keep it short but at least get it out there.

scientist in the past have tried creating machinces that have your perpetual motion principal but failed cus when a machine is in motion, energy can be lost in many ways e.g through sound, heat...

This does nothing but convert the drop energy of water... it's a water turbine, balloon head!

Your setup does create motion that can be converted to electricity but more energy would be used to power your setup as compared to the amount of energy it would produce. you need something to give the supply of water which would require energy of its own plus your circuit would also need energy. The rise and fall of the basin of water would also be too slow to produce enough electricity. Ever tried a hand crank powered dynamo? If the movement is too slow, very little electricity would be produced

why not put paddles on the turbine which is turned by the water. A much better idea I think
Oh they already do that

if the water is to be released at the bottom, it would require energy to pump it back. Will there be enough energy generated to do that? and how can helium lift the tank up? quite a lot of helium would be needed i think

Have you also considered utilising a see-saw, whereby leverage can be incorporated into the equation? Constant - Vector - Constant - Vector...