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If you have an assault rifle, do you:
a. shoot someone with it
or
b. use it like a club so they can judo you and make you look like an ass.
You all are a bunch of idiots. This clips shows you how to defend yourself on close combat if someone tries to attack you. Even if they are armed. Youcan't shoot someone if they stand this close to you. How are you going to aim if the weapon is at your waist? Good techniques. Ever been mugged? You usually get smacked with the gun. I've been mugged twice. I know.
By 5up3rc0w 1149148642 Reply Spam [+11] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removewhat about when the ammo runs out. That's why rifles have pig-stickers in the first place. I work with a couple of retired Army guys, don't remember how it came up, but they both said the Russian Spetznaz were superb fighters. Actually, I think they're expression was "you don't wanna f--k with 'em."
By Printerman 1149353507 Reply Spam [+5] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removeif they can't beat you, at least they'll make you look like an dumbass
By visi 1153012731 Reply Spam [+4] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveYou're out of ammo??
By Wildfred 1168031157 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removeyou my friend are not useing your head
do you really think that a combat can't end with you infront of the enemy just took out your clip too close to reload or no more clips left?
really? that nerrow minded? it takes about 1 sec to think about a reason take a look twice before you say something
hmm.. i dunno i'll take c. grapes..
By idiot_hole 1156464874 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveJeeesus how ignorants can you bee..... it`s almos unbelieveble
By rogozaurus 1155082469 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removeare proffesionally trained russian fighters that are used in secret missions in far and close combat. One example of those things is the Chechnyan raid on the Moscow theather Nord-Ost when the Chechnya's terrorists held more than 1000 hostages inside, they sent the Spetsnaz to figure out how to save them without provoking a massacre.(Used high concentrated gas bombs to daze the terrorists). Another example would be close combat fighting like this, it is needed all the time and these techniques were made from WW2 allready, they are all mission urgent troops that will help in most urgent situations.
By Great ME 1149372709 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveGood insight, but I would add that the principles these techniques are based on have been known to the chinese for well over 4000 years. Only the clothes are different as far as I can see..this is yang style t'ai chi chu'an.
By yang1 1165200363 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveIn the Moscow Theatre incident the Specnaz "figured out" they should use gas to daze (and kill) the terrorists. What they forgot was the presence of 10000 hostages inside who died because of this mysterious gas and "collateral damage". Most of the terrorists in the theater were executed with a bullet while they were still in their sleep... Why do Russians train elite forces, to end up provoking the massacre they were supposed to prevent???
By EEZI* 1149515768 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveThey used gas bombs because of course this was going on for 2 days... people were starving.. they sent in the spetsnaz for ideas on how to prevent this from happening... guess what, the chechnyan terrorists are not your ordinary "people" theyre terrorists just like in iraq, they murdered 2 people allready.. then since most people were dying of starvation, and then on the last hours the terrorists prevented people from going in or out for snacks, well spetsnaz's used the gas bombs. Yes, many people died 300 and over out of 1000 people. They murdered the terrorists because the leader told them to infliltrate the building, of course you could hear some cussing in there with furious shooting because they had to make that decision of killing their own along with the group of terrorists. Hope that clears it up
By Great ME 1167987136 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removeat least they did something not like your specops against 9/11...
By mmmgg 1151873364 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removewe went to war, dumbass
By philonetic 1227549492 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removethe ruskies lost to cavemen in afghanastan, they thought their rifles we're clubs, lol.
By bumble 1149118571 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removeif you had been studying hystory in school you would have learned that the americans helped the people in afghanistan by giving them weapons and suplies..
By sp@sM 1149177722 Reply Spam [+4] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removeit was a joke!
By Printerman 1149353587 Reply Spam [+2] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveU guyz. See another video here on meta about russians and afghan ppl. search "plane hit by missile"
By Mongolia_Online 1149194200 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveRussians did not lose in Aphganistan. They had overthrown unvonted goverment and kept another one in power for decade. Soviet Army loses in Aphgan were somewhat similar to the American casualties in Iraq these days. And don't forget that Taliban was trained/supplied / armed by USA, thousands of fighters at special bases in Pakistan. And Russians could stay there for another ten years, but changes in Soviet system brought up a withdraw, the collapse of Soviet Union was near...
About this video - the person showing "tricks" is a "super -elite" fighter, he can fight without actually touching opponent. At some point he shows that to a sceptical american "seal", that's when they all laugh.... :-)
and how many US troops are in Vietnam today? None, because we both lost the will to win. We lost, you lost, its the truth and it hurts don't it!
By sheriffnot 1174545256 Reply Spam [+2] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveIm sorry, where is the VK now? Oh right, they were beaten.
By philonetic 1227549657 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveThey did lose in Afghanistan. They lost because of 1 single man who supplied their enemy with stinger missiles, shoulder mounted. Russia lost so much of their force in the following months, their government decided to remove their forces.
By philonetic 1227549619 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveAnd the vietnamese didnt even receive a fraction the aid Reagan send the afghanis
By orontes2k 1149285603 Reply Spam [+1] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveAfgani "freedom fighters" (at the time) were fighting the Russians. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
By toothbrush 1159483794 Reply Spam [+1] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removethe USA lost to the "cavemen" in vietnam
By oga booga 1174516077 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removei dont see any americans beating the same cavemen
Every army that has invaded Afghanistan has lost. That is just the way of things. In the case of the US in Afghanistan, we have what has been termed a "minimal" force, but it is working with the Afghanis on flushing out the bad guys.
It won't be a case of us "winning" there, but a case of us helping their own people win against tyrrany.
As far as the Specnaz, they are superior soldiers and I, for one, am glad we never had to go against them.
im a russian and i know all about this. its using the other persons power completly to make u the victor. the thing where he didnt tuch the guy is all about presher points in the body. there ar over 200 in the male body and over 300 in the femal.
By The Russian 1150684532 Reply Spam [+2] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveThe effectiveness of a martial art is not always related to effectiveness of soldiers in its country of origin.
Kung Fu and Tai Ji are effective, but that did not help to reduce Chinese casualties during the Korean War.
What really sustained them was devotion to their cause and support from the locals.
So the effectiveness of Russian martial arts cannot be judged according to Russia's military success rate.
Especially since during the Communist Era, only a handful of Russians embraced their traditional martial arts.
It is reality and you are just don't wanna believe it. It is special forces it's not regular soldiers. They have to work quiet and clean. It's not American Comandos or something else. It is special forces of KGB. Try to find on internet RUSSIAN SYSTEMA or Russian Martial Arts and you will understand. It's not a JuDo or Karate of freaking Kung Fu - It's real self defense, it's ability to fight against 5, 6, etc. people.
P.S.
If you don't believe in something it doesn't mean that it's not true.
I'm not argueing
But watch out world, this mofo's can beat u up without
touching u? This guys shouldn't be in the army,
he should be making his buck on TV shows. This is true John Edward mindpower shit.
Tonight at eight o' clock: Crossing Over With Russian Specnaz Officer.LOL
performing illusions with Chriss Angel, lol.
By bumble 1149118646 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveOk, something stinks here. Why is he speaking Russian around camo troops who are (supposedly) American? Who is that idiot Latino who (pretends?) to suffer an invisible strike from the dude? I don't mean to be snotnosed here, but I guarantee you guys logic always wins over superstition. He could have coerced these people somehow before or during the show, with hypnotism, money, or russian mob thugs? If I were there, here is how I would do it: Pull out the LA phonebook and ask someone to flip a dice 9 times and call the # of the the resulting total # bar in the yellow pages. Tell the bouncer at such bar what is going on and why you are calling. I guarantee, bouncers are of such a nature that NONE would turn the challenge down. If the Russian turns out to be for real, then holy shit, this guy is a master, I humble myself before him and request his teaching! Otherwise tell these stinking Russians to go home to their outhouse holes in Siberia.
By kakashka 1164530422 Reply Spam [+1] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveHe is a proven fraud, the people that are in these videos are his followers and they cooperate in the fraud! He gets his b u t t kicked any where else!
By sheriff56 1178662499 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveThe guys are complettely wasted! LOL! Look at their faces!
By leowkrolin 1163680128 Reply Spam [+1] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveThere are a number of different styles of Russian Martial Arts, from Slavyano Gretska Y Borba (SGB) to Skobar to Lubki to Buza to Kadchinilov sys (K-sys) etc. etc. Based on the style of work, I would guess this is Kadochnikov systema. Someone mentioned slow sparring, I would like to point out that these different styles of RMA differ most strongly in terms of training methodology. Some like SGB have little concept of defence and just go full bore in bursts - the defence is the offense. Others like k-sys are more cerebral. Systema, the style popularized by Vladimir Vasiliev in the West, covers a wide spectrum of training methods and intensities and is to me more intuitive.
The concept of no-touch work also seems to be common in these disciplines, however again the approach and explanation vary depending on who you ask. I saw a video with the head of SGB stamping the earth and people falling over yards away. VV also does no-touch on occassion, but there is always an interaction and the other guy is usually looking at him to perceive some presented stimuli. When the 'US' guy turned his back or the other felt his neck, I couldn't see what the demonstrator was doing. However, I am sure that if I pointed a gun at you that you knew was loaded, you would usually feel the urge to move. If I pretended to yawn convincingly, chances are you would feel the need to yawn. If you lunged at me and I moved just before you connected and it was too late for you to adjust, you might fall down for no apparent reason to the outsider. IOW psychological manipulation ad timing can affect physical performance, sometimes in a profound way. FWIW I've never seen Vlad quite replicate standing out of sight (I'm assuming from the video) from a big distance and somehow pulling the guy down, or the itchy neck thing. Sounds like a Rich Mooney thing. But, not knowing Russian, I do not know what they are saying, and so can only guess at what is being proposed.
they train 1 or tow years in martial arts and a martial artist train a hole life! they canot do shit in close combat and i know it well because i live in a harbor! This in not mortal combat! In mortal combat yopu can pool eyes of bite his throat put your fingers in his fucking ass in order to take control of the opponent! You thinl that in the ufc if there \was permited to punch on the throat there would be a 20 minutes fight? i dont think so!
By ninja_mouse2 1157736284 Reply Spam [+1] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveThe fact alone that people always compare their special forces troops against American Marines and American special forces is proof of their insecurity about the quality of their own troops. Why bother defending American forces to somebody who already thinks of American SF as the benchmark of SF quality? Personally I respect British, American and Aussie SF, as well as special police forces like SWAT and the German GSG-9.
By chipdouglas 1156286598 Reply Spam [+1] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveHave any of you experts heard of esoteric energys,no well then im pretty sure none of you girls have any idea what this guy can do.you all talk of close quarter combat as tho your experts when you think that you would probably fly kick him and run stick to what u know tekken and virtual fighter let the ones who know what there talking about talk about it
By mangaman 1150394148 Reply Spam [+1] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removei speak russian and i was in the marines. the commentator called the man an american pekhotinyets, which means infantryman. he never called him a marine. they have a name for their marine corps which is morsaya pekhota. he did not refer to this.
By pekhotinyets 1150382696 Reply Spam [+1] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removethen explain why us infantry man is training with russian special forces it would be stupid..lol
By mmmgg 1151873807 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removei think you spelled their SOF name wrong, it is Spetsnaz, Special Purpose Unit
By useruser 1149305519 Reply Spam [+1] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveI'm not Russian either. But I grew up in Russia and believe me my Russian is as good as any Russian. Its "áßÕæÃÂÃÂ×". There are 2 ways to write letter "æ". Ts and C. So we're both right. What do you think about this video???
By Mongolia_Online 1149322154 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveIt's great to see Russian and American special forces getting along so well. :)
Amazing moves that guy has.
russians drink alot of vodka... that's how he's doing this :D
By Vladi 1149279532 Reply Spam [+1] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removeyes, vodka is the real power:DD
By mmmgg 1151873614 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removethey have the shortest average life lenght in whole europe and asia, and still their goverment is more concerned about making a strong army...
By KrwawyLeon 1149270591 Reply Spam [+1] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removefirst of all, if you take offense to the following then it was meant for you. if you're intelligent enough to understand that this doesn't apply to you as there were a few reasonable comments, then you won't be offended in the least.
you f*#@ing morons. you can shoot from the hip without aiming, especially with an assault rifle such as the one shown. remove the hollywood B$ that you think you know about firearms and shut your mouth if you don't know any better. at point blank range a firearm can do devastatingly fatal damage to the human body.
as for the "melee attack" theory. STFU. you're overlooking the underlying purpose for this video which illustrates nonviolent intervention in an otherwise violent situation. i don't care if the attacker had great big stuffed teddy bears, if he comes at this guy, he's gonna drop on his a$$!
lets remember one of the greatest freedoms in the United States of America, which is the right to free speech. I can't speak for the entire world, but I as an American citizen am certainly glad to have this freedom. as for any other nationalities, no offense is meant toward you at all. i wouldn't dare try to downplay or insult another country, or its people as i likely know little if anything about your culture, and in my ignorance i can only respect your way of life if it is in any way different from mine. That having been said, remember this, as an American citizen you have the right to form you own opinion, and you have the right to speak freely as you please regarding said opinion on any of a broad scope of matters, such as this. At the same time, remember, "Silence is golden". Do you have any clue what that means? How about, "Less is more". Or my favorite, "Better to remain silent and look like a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt". In short, if you don't know what you're talking about, and you don't post something stupid, nobody will ever know. It's when you start talking about things which you have little, if any, let alone accurate knowledge of. this is known as IGNORANCE! note, this is different than stupidity. many people are incredibly intelligent, but lack common sense. perhaps only in certain areas, but none the less. i've seen the most amazing display of ignorance in the comments on these videos and such. if metacafe didn't have such an amazing assortment of media, I'd be driven away by some of the foolishness in these comments.
once again, if you read all this and it pissed you off, it was probably supposed to as it was likely intended for you. however, as stated before, if you weren't offended there's good reason for that too. you can call yourself among those blessed with enough brain to say something intelligent or keep your mouth shut! and for that I thank you. I'm not perfect, and I don't know everything, but if I don't know, I keep my mouth shut!
now, i suppose its high time to let the inevitable flame war begin. which, by the way will only further prove my point.
...and say so very very little?
Allow me to sum up your key points:
"1) Guns can be effective at close range.
2) So can these techniques, clearly.
3) Everyone has the right to an opinion, so long as I don't think it's a stupid one."
548 words...Yikes.
You seem to assume two things:
1) in the US you have complete freedom of speech, and you are easily able to form impartial opinions;
2) the US is the only country where this is the case.
And I would add that you imply that
3) not having freedom of speech is a "cultural difference", or another "way of life".
None of these is true, and only (1) comes close to it.
That being said, I totally agree on the value of shutting (the f*ck) up.
agreed!
By deadfli 1149684757 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removeas everyone fell asleep halfway thru your comment. """"(:)@
By Teddy_bare 1149225646 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveThere is a martial art form called Ti Chi (once again i know its mispelled). This has been very effective for hundreds of years, so i would call it BS. Ti Chi invloves lots of meditation with the fighting and the sheer force of someone releasing there harvested energy from the Ti Chi practice is enough to knock you over. Also, The reason why they are using the guns as clubs is to simulate what would happen in a melee fight, not a gun fight, (obviously you shoot if u have bullets and your gun isnt jammed).
Basically, it is to yield to the opponent's attacks, then use his/her inertia against him.
That is more efficient and causes less stress on the martial artist than blocking the opponent's strikes, then punching him/her.
Of course, there is still the mystical "energy", "balance" and "power of non-action" stuff ... >_>
BTW, what did "BS" stand for ?
Indeed...this is how my 90 year old teacher can send a 200lb man flying across the room with a touch, but cannot lift a bowling ball. Every touch, moevement or attack carries energy, the stronger the attacker the more energy. The t'ai chi chu'an master can sense the direction and force of the attack, absorb it, and redirect the energy outward. This is achieved through years of external and internal exercises until you become able to direct the energy all around your body and even outward...if necessary, to knock out people's breath, paralyse their limbs or damage their nerves. T'ai Chi Chu'an was named by centuries' worth of defeated martial arts champions and means "supreme ultimate boxing". The techniques used by the Specnaz are adapted from the same principles.
My teacher says, "the master is the man who leaves the bar before the fight begins", but I imagine this is not an option in a hostage situation!
Tai Chi?
By DislexicRaptor 1149131125 Reply Spam [+1] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveBut still, we know NOTHING of Tai Chi. It's amazin how w/o touching someone you can disable him!
By Maksim 1149161500 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removethat's only basics of what elite russian specnaz can do!
By uzbek 1149125005 Reply Spam [+1] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveIt's true, you can find classes probably in your area for Russian Martial Arts called Sistema, or systema, i don't know how to spell it... but ya, if you see one of them it looks soooo fake, but when you have them do it to you in person you will believe then.
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By zveno 1198842437 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveFirst off, Russian Spetsnaz are some tuff bastards. I have respect for them.
Second, Unarmed combat training is an essential part of Military skills.
Question:
I dont speak Russian, but what does this vid have to do with US Marines?
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By dianasmallchickth 1191423055 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveYou kid's grow up and get a life! All these comment's save a few are utter rubbish.
By sheriffnot 1178811921 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removeyehh ryt the russians invented the most widley used firearm in the world the ak 47. just buy butterfly knives here inthe phillipines also known as balisong
By ya'man 1177736726 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removeyeh ryt by the way the russians invented the ak 47 the worlds most widley used weapon in the world damn it. yehh just buy butterfly knives here in the philppines also known as balisong.
By ya'man 1177685285 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveIf your wondering why you would use a gun as a blunt object against someone heres a few answers:
1.) Your out of ammo or not completly sure if you have any left in your gun.
2.) Getting that close to someone and shooting them is messy
3.) Being that close lets you think "Does an alive person have more intel then a dead person?" then proced to knock them out.
I like this video, Spetsnaz always do amazing jobs. This video is superb except one thing...
You spelt Spetsnaz wrong. People who are interested in Spetsnaz may just miss this video as they search.
now im not saying that fighting style is stupid it is prabobly a very useful thing to know in a combat situation but in this movie the guys punch at him and he just steps out of the way and they trip all over themselves and like totally collapse. that wouldnt really happen if your were fighting a real enemy soldier.
By futuremarine14 1165949897 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveAnyone that cannot look at this and tell that the offender is taking falls and backing of his attack to make his Officer happy is on crack.
By *Devil1* 1160108196 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removethis fighting technique was invented long time ago and its been kept a secret until now, the russian spetsnaz isnt goin to prove ne thing to ne one.. only on the battlefield so if u think is BS go ahead and its never goin to be taught to the public or by some defected officer since it takes almost ur whole life to master this shit there is no comparison in the world to this type of self-D rossiya vpered!!
By ruspower 1159635227 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveClose combat techniques like this work great in controlled environments. All his subjects were doing very slow and exagurated movments and they were not just random people (similar to a Criss Angel schpeal). These are not real world practices cause they dont work in combat zones or when adrenaline is pumped up. But they do make great demonstrations of the effects of human energy from one to another. If it really worked as well as he demonstrated, everyone would already be doing it. What he was demonstrating was not a new idea, eastern martial arts have been doing that for centuries.
By toothbrush 1159483637 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removeok i will say that ok these guys might be elite special ops and what not i wont say they arent i dont know but as for the thing with the noise and the ear and all and the pushing the guy back with his mind i am very skeptical it seems alot like the "secret martial arts moves" everyone knows about nowadays... no doubt though these guys might be kick ass and his techniques very helpful. and such.
and as for America in Iraq its all personall preferance pple but as for why isnt America in Africa? no one else really is either so its not Just the us that isnt there. many other countrys could step in to help them as well. but do they?
It's much easier to slap someone with your hand than to shoot them with a rifle at very close range. If soldiers didn't need those skills the military would not teach them. king you speak of something you know nothing of.
By gallenero 1157600435 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removethere's more to life than what you see or touch. These non-contact techniques are expressed in many martial styles. I've experienced it. It's not bullshit. Does this guy look like he wants to rule the UFC? I love breaking this to you but the UFC is bullshit.( if you think those are the toughest guys in the world) The techniques I practice aren't allowed in the UFC.
By gallenero 1157600154 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveHow did he hurt that guy at the end without touching him?
By lin2k4 1156928322 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveI would've liked to have seen more of this specialized display.
By Streetball_fan 1156505399 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removethey're on ice, either that or too many beers
By candymintz 1155665535 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removekid could push this guy over, he's so ready to fall on the floor
By candymintz 1155665361 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Remove^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
By bobfish 1155586145 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveYou can see it, the guy comes at him, in slow mo, and just starts reeling back once the "instructor" grabs the gun, as if he's been hit or knocked over. Hell, he's not even being tripped, or touched in any way. I know that the spetznaz are good fighters, they are SF, all SF soldiers in all countries are good fighters, thats their training. (excluding green berets, 1/2 fighters, 1/2 rebellion leaders :D)
By tehb 1155109044 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removebut the SAS would kick their arses
By villa4life 1155045327 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removeactually those moves he made is aikido technique..
By winz 1154623052 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveFake 100%
By this is fake 1154324875 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removesoldiers looked drunk to me
By klokabell 1154201000 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveHe swings like a girl, ofcourse this "no contact" mumbo jumbo works when you are NOT TRYING TO HURT your opponent
By manaja 1152823671 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveYou seem to be commenting on the 'softness' of this demonstration and the apparent lack of force shown by the aggressor. I've been practicing internal martial arts (T'ai Chi Ch'uan
By yang1 1172668448 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removeone thing about specnaz -
SEALS have about 400-600 man
GsG9 - about 400
GROM - 400
SPECNAZ - 24 assoult squads/ 30 000 man!!
So how can you call'em elite? Lol they are just a bit better trainer constripts.
ok, people like you really piss me off.
go read a book or do something usefull.
How big is UK?
How big is Poland?
Germany?
now, Spetsnaz, its a general obriviation (sp?).
every Okrug (county I guess) has its own OSN/OMSN, and they call themeselves SPN, well, actually you guys call them that, when in reality they are not.
Now, SPETSNAZ...
there is SpN GRU (Army spetsnaz/ SpN VDV - 45 ORP SpN), SpN FSB (aka Alfa, Vympel'), SpN VMF RF, SpN FSK.. what else? well a few more, that I can't remember/don't know about.
the total numbers, hmm, I'd say about 24K maybe, not sure.
See, Russia is big, every major orgonization needs it's own SF if you will, so that they can be trained in the specific field, lets say, reconnissance/ assault, hostage rescue, nuclear threat, etc.
Now, count all the US SF (SEALS, SFG's, SFODD, CIA Teams, whatever ...) and you'll get pretty much the same number of people, give or take a few.
calling them conscripts is just wrong.. yet again shows how much you actually know about Russian Military.
Just in the years 2000-02 there have been so many changes in the mil structure, that you would probobly not recognize it, if you were in 10 years ago.
well, I'm getting tired of typing...
Regards
hey all amrican i know that shit and it is work so if you dont belive go fuck your sellf.
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By EshKia 1151445831 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveCheck out this UK site for more info (made by no Russians or Americans) (admin does not allow to publish links...):
http:// (remove this - no space) www.alliancemart (remove this - no space) ialarts.com/ (remove this - no space) systema.html (admin does not allow to publish links...)
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By Tanka 1149979732 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removecopied this technique of "non-touch" defence from China, and chinese martial arts eg. taijiquan originated from India, which they learnt it from Gautama Buddha...whose main principle of faith is non-violence. Funny how things goes...
By Cockamamie 1149935207 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveThe Spetnaz must've gone pretty crazy during that war to have developed all this stuff!
By James 1981 1149849844 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removei have to remeber that restraint trick, and btw, 4 evry1 hu says that no 1 cud get this close, think,if they are this good close up they must be just as lethal at a longer range and teams of them means ur fucked, also what about all those marines and sas and royal guard hu spend years training how to use their m1 rifle like a baton, its all just disipline
By commie pinko wannabe 1149811194 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveAnyone has videos about The System, or any traditional Russian martial arts ??
By deep one of Cthulhu 1149737339 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveHow come in the beginning of the video the volunteer who kept getting parried and thrashed by the demonstrator appeared like he was just handing the latter his gun ????
By deep one of Cthulhu 1149737694 Reply Spam [-1] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveIT was a DEMO!!!
Haven't you ever studied any martial arts???
Seriously man... learn at least the general basics of english... your entire paragraph sounds like it was written by a drunk 6 year old with down syndrome. (if ur tryin to translate that with your ruskie-american dictionary that u used to post ur quote, it's obviously useless, throw it out)
By Cornfed _redneck 1149660303 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveListen im Russian =) N all that shit that u disscussing here is stupid shit ! Russian always was strong! even americans got alot shit here so they can see enemy plain or they can do a lot shit ! U fu*ked up 9/11 So aint say shit don be stupid! All thing that u have almoust did russian even TV who did? its was American man (dont remember name) His father n mother came from Russia n born him! Everything that Russians did Americans buyin licences ! Peoples who in Parlament n all that crap they now better , if you dont know ! Don talk about that ! Cuz u stupids! If not Russians on this plnanet , maybe americans now SLAVES ! Germans cut make u SLAVE , but no , we won the war , Russian olways was strong , they now whats pain in army they beating them till they start bleed , they know whats pain ! Not like in USA soldier in army brake his finger so fuk*in banch of doctors gonna come and jump around him ! Americans lil scared chickens! Im not sayin nothing they strong too ! War with IRAQ but Russian always was strong , now they have alot project alot new machines planes American dont eve know , n never will know =) cuz americans got money ! But not really smart as russians! Look at Russian Jewish's Fu*kin they holding america everywhere in oparlament lawyers programmers doctors ALL Jewish's (alot) Russians, americans just living here just to call this place as AMERICA! But they ha lika OFF DA HOOD
By Dudeyo 1149529359 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveThere is a Specnaz training facility close to Moskau were there are many levels of combat discipline. Thier techniques are effective at neutralizing enemy combatants from many foreign nations. With allied integration into the Russian Federation, the Specnaz black-opps are more efficient then during the previouse governing system.
By noki 1149493263 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveI am a United States Marine Officer. None of the men in this video are Marines. Not one of the men in this video are wearing any form of a United States service uniform. Whoever wrote the description for the movie is an idiot. The Marines have their own martial arts and it has nothing to do with this goofy crap. The men that were used as demostrators attacking the "specnaz officer" (this probably is wrong too, but I don't know for sure) obviously is not actually trying to do harm, but rather to allow the other man to show defensive fighting skills.
By Marine8297 1149484016 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removemarine,
you don't know what you are talking about.
Lavrov has been doing this for years, you were probobly still walking around in dipers, or more likely not even born yet.
I've seen a 80-year old man literally fuck up 5 young guys (trained) with his bare hands in CQC.
If you could speak russian, then you would've heard Lavrov say, that he's trying not to break anything in the opponents body, hence they'r not really attacking him.
The thing about russian martial arts (sistema kadochnikova for one) is that sparrings are stricly prohibited (alot of self-hypnosis - samogipnoz involved), when you see a guy attacking you, "the beast wakes up", your first reaction is to kill the enemy. stay alive.
the only tipe of "sparring" they can do, is a slow one.
pekhotinets,
the commentator called him pehotinets, now, I don't know how long you've been to US, but Im guessing it has been a pretty long time.
so, in Russia, we call you guys MORPEH, Pehotinets, Morskaya Pehota.
if the guy was an Army sodier, commentator would've just said soldat/soldier, but then again, he could've said pehotinets, so it would sound better, you know how people are.
regards.
No kidding moron, I didn't have to speak russian to tell they weren't really attacking him, that was actually my point. I am not even really sure what you were trying to respond to me and say. I read your response several times and still am trying to figure out why you think I care that you saw some 80 year old beat some people up. This sounds like bullshit, but honestly, regardless if it is or not, who cares? What is your point?
By Marine8297 1160243037 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removeu just cant stand that someone is better than u...
By mmmgg 1151873502 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveThis has nothing to do with being better at martial arts, that doesn't win wars. I am a combat arms officer, and I can tell you that tough, realistic training, and good leadership wins battles, and the Marines battle record is as impressive as they come. Flipping guys with rifles is a trick, marksmanship, fast firesupport, and solid logistics are the words of professionals in arms.
By Marine8297 1156979839 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveSpecial forces combat and war are two completely different things. In large scale conflics yeah martial arts mean nothing and the marines have the upperhand. But in special forces like hostage situations and shit it can really come in handy. So stop posting on topics you don't understand just because you're a "combat arms officer"
By RamenOps 1163563444 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removeor are half the americans that post on here either in the army or a marine officer?
Also, this martial arts is amazing. I personally have blackbelts in 6 different martial arts, and now i want to learn this one. Although I am trained to kill people in a single hit, unlike your so called marines. A single marine face to face with me, would try to shoot me, fail then die from their crushed throat. Enjoy your safety while it lasts, because i guarantee you that the american army will not be safe forever. BTW, the american economy is in decline, since you are over 3 trillion dollars in debt, and it's growing every day.
i speak russian and am a marine. the commentator called him an infantryman. in no way was he refered to as a marine.
By pekhotinyets 1150382873 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveU'r a Moron and Retard!!! Why do you think I posted this video?? I'm not trying to prove something. This video is COOL!!!! Look how many viewers I have!!! I don't care if it's Russians or Americans. It's about human body, ability to control your (and not only your) body and situation. So shut u'r hole cocksucka... BITCH
By Mongolia_Online 1149575448 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveIf you are posting the video, why randomly choose US Marines for the guy getting beat down if you honestly have no idea? (which you don't because you are very wrong) I know why.. because you think it makes the guy that much harder if he is beating up a Marine... go fuck yourself.
By Marine8297 1156979613 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveYeah that video sure is cool, if by cool you mean not practical at all. Like some of the earlier posters said, if you have a gun, are you gonna charge someone with it and try to hit them or are you gonna shoot them? Exactly. And if you are Mongolian like your name suggests, then you have no room to talk bad about America, because last thing I heard Mongolia sucks at life.
By Straight Folded 1151561089 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removethat was certainly a well crafted arguement. "...sucks at life" huh? You sure stuck it to 'em on that one!
By Printerman 1157771902 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removewas that there is no evidence that any of the people there are Marines. They may possibly be, but they are not in uniform and therefore hard to identify as such, esp. if you don't know the language spoken in the video. BTW - it is a cool vid. though.
By Printerman 1149693721 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveThat isn't a US Marine. We don't wear berets, we wear our own style of camo, (MARPAT, for marine pattern) we also shave the sides of our heads every week, and use M16s, all solid reasons why this isn's a US Marine. Thanks for getting my point and not just trying to get in on the Marine bashing which is so popular on here.
By Marine8297 1156980100 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removethe "marine" was not the guy in the beret, it was the black/howaiian (whatever?) guy in the basebal hat that fell down at the end.
I watched the video again, and the comentator does actually say amerikanskij morskoj pehotinets - US Marine.
the guys next to him in civvie clothes oakleys do look like one of them mid-aged high speed unit farts :P
the camo beret guy, hmm, does look like US Army, Im not sure.
also, remember that this video could've very-well been made '99-2001 (?) back when you guys had Woodland camo.
Regards
At the end, there is an American Soldier, he turns his back when the guy in the Hawaiian shirt goes down. Probably an overload on bullshit and he couldn't take anymore. He is wearing a black beret and woodlands, so this video is from recently, the army has only had the beret for a few years, and recently switched camies to the ACUs (look like shit) so it is since the had the berets but before ACUs, so 2001 to present. And that "Marine" in civilian clothes, right...
By Marine8297 1160243637 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveThis may draw some "anti-American" hate posts, but that's too bad. I have the utmost respect for the Marines and anyone else who is willing to put themselves in harms way to keep the rest of us safe. (Army, Navy, Air Force, Nat'l Guard, Police, Firefighters, EMT's... all of 'em) I know that sounds like rhetoric, but it's simple truth. War sucks, and it would be nice if we didn't have to fight each other; but here in the real world, I would rather be defended by the U.S. Armed Forces any day. Just remember, one of the freedoms you are protecting is that of free speech. Even the idiots are allowed to have their say. (Sometimes that even includes me, heh heh.)
By Printerman 1157771795 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveYou are sceptic and you are afraid to believe that other special forces coulb be stronger than American. Relax ... it's possible ...... Old school of KGB still works ...... and you just don't know a lot of things in this life .... you know what you've been showed ........ that's it ..... brain wash ...... you need for army as a meat without thinking ..... Sorry but it's true .......
By Russian Martial Arts 1149494604 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveThere are many fine special forces units all over the world, that was never in debate (BTW the Marines are not special forces, they are a branch of the military) The arguement I made was that the soldier in the video is not a US Marine. The Marine Corps is an expeditionary heavy fighting force, with its own internal armor, tanks, air, and logistics, all centered around argueably the finest infantry of its size. This has nothing to do with brain washing, I just know more than you do.
By Marine8297 1156979478 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveHow about FAST, FR?
they'r in SOCOM, tehnically they are SF, well, special ops capable.
82-97, years you've been in?
Since SOCOM stood up in 87, the Corps is the only branch that has refused to give up men, until they finally gave in and stood up 'Det 1' a year or two ago. Recently, however, "Det 1" has been terminated. While Marine units have worked with SOCOM, we so far have kept out of there. Now just because we aren't 'spec forces' because we are not part of SOCOM, doesn't mean anything tactically. Force Recon is very high speed and tough as are our combat arms battalions. Most people toss around phrases like 'spec forces' and 'spec ops' without really understanding what they mean, which is usually control and usage, not training or equipment. Force Recon is part of the division, not SOCOM.
By Marine8297 1160242495 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveWho cares who these guys are? This isn't about red vs blue or east vs west for me at all! It's amazing to see the application of ancient principles of self-defence being used in a combat setting, I think it's fascinating that these thousands-of- years-old arts are still being applied effectively today. Marine 8297, why shouldn't US military learn this stuff as part of their repertoire? It might come in useful!
By yang1 1165201202 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removeomg lol, its all real, my father's friend worked at Spetsnaz, he could do tricks like that
By x25 1149343230 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removeits real things and every thing is secret if u had lisen to the russian in background
so the show this stuff only because the USA forse were looking
in world war II...becouse what they dont teach russians in schools is that without land-lease , russia wouldnt stand a chance against germans. And here are few numbers:
90% of railway tracks used came from USA
55% of aluminum
60% of aircraft fuel
1/3 of high explosives
2000 locomotives
10,000 railway carriages
54 million uniforms
14 million pairs of boots
340,000 radios
386,000 field telephones
1,5 million miles of comm. cable
409,000 trucks
48,000 jeeps
Only becouse of that, they could build so many tanks. Everything else came from US for free...
cant find this in russian history books, can ya;)
maybe 1/5of this is true...the else is bulshit
By mmmgg 1151874201 Reply Spam [+1] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removeeven less than that. I mean even right these days it would be hard to send by plane so much staff. And I can't remeber Soviet Union ever using American jeeps, trucks and locomotives. ---- How would they be fixed iwhen broken???
By 2alegatora 1151971289 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveVery few actual convoys sailed from Britain to Russia during the war, mainly because it was to dangerous to sail slow freight ships so close to germany, and german occupied countries.
By deadfli 1149683988 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveTell me how much money America made on that war ...... and actually American government thru third parties was selling good to Nazi Germany, iron, steel, food - it is a fact ....... You know what you've been told .........
By Russian Martial Arts 1149494758 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveYou fuckin commie.
By Farvikkity 1149656352 Reply Spam [+1] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removeyou can.Everybody knows that without US and Canada, Europe and Soviet Union would be in bigger trouble.
By 2alegatora 1149460023 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removeyes it would take ssrs fjue months longer to take over germany
By mmmgg 1151874260 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveI think you'll find that Canada is part of the commonwealth so was actually at war with Germany long before america pitched in
By deadfli 1149684087 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removehe is asuperb martial artist
you can see in the slow motion that he is twice faster then its opponent
and about that coughing attack i personally think its bullshit
that was acough, wasnt it?
join american army and shut the fuck up!
By -user- 1149244125 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveI had a Thai Chi master make me fly against the wall once with a single finger. This stuff can happen, but I wonder if it's some kind hypnotizm.
By fight 1149231905 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveThat is not a Marine.
By JUHNJESMER 1149174369 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removedont underestimate the spetznatz
By 00shaky00 1149162848 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveWooooooW..... He is better than Copperfield.... Maybe he can find my watch!!!
By GardenSnake!!! 1149133715 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removethis russian type is called systema or something. look for it on the net. it's really effective but very hard to perfect.
By cragrat 1149129822 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removesistema/systema (one you talking about) is a westernized version of SAMBO, or so.
sistema kadichnikova on the other hand, welll, Ill tell you this, you aint gonna find it on the net, nor enywere else.
The manuals on it have a big red stamp with the government markings on the inside.
I hope you get what I'm saying.
sistema is hard to perfect because most people don't know what they are doing, hence alot of mathematical formulas/theorems inside the book, that alot of people simply don't understand.
the only pain you get after the "training" day, is a headache, your brain gets tired/overworked.
cause this guy was woopen ass and not even breaking a sweat ,...and correct me if im mistaken but was the rifle they were using loaded ?!? well still nice vid ,.. but i would of liked to know what he was saying ,.. oh and also at the end when he knocked down the dude with the camera w/o tuching him ?? what was that ???
By mean 1 1149106964 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveI wonder why this guy isn't rich by doing boxing or fighting in Pride, UFC or K1...
because he works in specnaz..:)
I\\\\\\\'m just being sarcastic U dip shit!
By the way, I\\\'m not american...
And U are a peace of shit who can\\\\\\\'t understand plain english.
sooooo.... FUUUUUUCK YOOOOOUUUUUU !!!!!!
And another thing... Your mama likes it goood!
never seen someone yell at their own post before.. very entertaining.
By Cornfed _redneck 1150098225 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removego back to your funny big cars
By PUniSHer_47! 1149106967 Reply Spam [-2] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveGO f-u-c-k your donkey a-s-s-hole
By fredrums52 1149110899 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveTolko ruskie takoe pridumat umeyut.
By Petrov 1149103597 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveRussians are the best!
By DreamVirus 1153040801 Reply Spam [-1] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removein a real war you won't have time to do this kind of skills:) i am Türk and in our army this kind of shows is not tought because it's useless (except special forces). i would like to say that man to do those tricks to our soldiers. one shot and dead. useless in my opinion
By EshKia 1151446293 Reply Spam [-1] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removei cant read all this bullshit.. one of comment talk about 200 and 300 pressure point on the human body... its a lie and u believe it lolll :P he's probably realy strong .. but in this video we saw a lot of bullshit.. i already saw someone who try to do something like that ... on the camera and whit his students it was beatiful but on the journaliste !! o my god he was rediculus :P he tried to explain with some a lot of thing that was probably because she (the journalist )doesnt know anything of martial art... so she asked him to try it one a other students from a another school and he NEVER got it
By fre3zb 1150700197 Reply Spam [-1] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveIn 1 word its a bunch of bullcrap it looks staged
By Da $O1D13R 1149586925 Reply Spam [-1] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removethey showed what they can do in Bieslan and Chechenya... bunch of loosers, they're good only for raping and beating defenceless peasants.
They cant be compared with Navy Seals, Delta Force, SAS, GROM, GSG 9 and so on. Who give's a **** about their hand to hand skills? You know, every1 are using guns on the wars now.
yes u can't compare specnaz with other specel forces because specnaz is way better;)
By mmmgg 1151874400 Reply Spam [+1] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveU'r pathetic
By Mongolia_Online 1149301754 Reply Spam [-1] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveAll those fancy named bonehead american forces do is get high on dope and kill women and children. Name one war US single handedly won and don't even think about the second world war. Germans or Japs would easily kick your ass on one on one. They still can do by the way. US armed forces is one of the most incompetent in the world. You also think you have won the war in iraq. Dream on,. You are up shit creek without a paddle.
By laserjet 1149268467 Reply Spam [-1] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removebut he is mentioning special ops forces and you are talking about regular units, and drafted ones at that. As for the "name one war..." part - why don't you name one modern era war that was ever won singlehandedly. That's just a stupid comment.
By Printerman 1149354100 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveThe British Forces won singlehandedly in the Falklands.
By deadfli 1149683612 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removebut yeah gonna hafta call bs on the no touchy crap. I remember when some martial artist claimed he could knock people out without touching them. So some news crew came to film it and be guinea pigs. Long story short, he couldn't do it to anyone else, just his students.
So it would seem you gotta touch somebody to knock them down. Can't do it with your mind.
Imagine that.
lol wow man they must have got bladderd as none of em can stand upthey all pissed
By cardiffmc 1149107797 Reply Spam [-1] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removeactually very good. The average Marine actually is much better trained and equipped. Specnaz was made to be competition fro Navy SEALS, but they ended up like everything else the Russians did: A shitty by-comparison low-rent poor man's version of whatever American unit they were designed to compete with. Let's hear it for Mother Russia!
By shootstathrill 1149121511 Reply Spam [-2] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveAnd did you see their titanium submarines when the U.S. didn't even know how to weld titanium? or their migs and sukhoi warplanes? which outfly anything america has today? stories of russians building crap weapons aren't very convincing when you look at what they really had.
Yes, U.S forces had high tec stuff, but the russians could keep theirs working in the field. just think yourselves lucky you never had to fight them. Read the history books. Learn, don't guess.
Kursk. This is not isolated, google 'russian sub' and see how many stories come up on russian subs failing and sinking or killing sailors before being rescued.
By Marine8297 1160243917 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveMan i'm glad to hear that ! Respect
By Russian Martial Arts 1149494167 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removeu must be stupid to say that navy seals are better then specnaz...lol
By mmmgg 1151874666 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveIs that why they beat you into space while you were exploding on the launch site?
By no_shit 1149218544 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removethe ussr made lots of videos like this one. all of them were staged.
By gacpl 1149107376 Reply Spam [-2] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveThis looks really old. But this goes beyond propaganda into the realm of fantasy with the knockdowns from 5 - 10 feet away! Funny stuff, lol!
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