Is This Proof That God Exists?

That is BS! The enemy comes only to steal, kill, and destroy but I (God) want you to have life and have it more abundantly.

Yeah... right. "Penned by man but written by god". Howabout: "bullshit". It was penned by men who are too weak to cope with the reality of life, and managed to pursuade others to believe the same by use of trickery or force. And your theory about the bible predicting the existence of freshwater springs at the bottom of the ocean? It's called a prediction. I could predict that aliens exist, and who knows, thousands of years later aliens might come, but that does not mean a book I might've wrote it in means it's real. We were brought here by evolution, chimpanzees are our distant relatives, and our bone structure is pure proof that evolution is real. Adult fairytale my ass. The real fairytale is god, the bible, and all that other load of crap. If god was real, would he supposedly let good people die in Iraq, or full-scale genocides come up between people due to religion? Your belief is demented, and if I were you, I would open my eyes to reality and knowledge. To believe blindly is like letting someone lead you off a cliff. Boy do I feel sorry for you.

Yes I'll admite Jesus was a PERSON just like you and me and nothing more. It was a group of so call "Holy Men" that pushed him to that "God" state to keep the peasants in line, it was the same ones that decided which books of the "Bible" would be printed and yes not all of them were printed. And the ones that were not all of of them are printed in there entirety. So God was made up to keep man in check until he got an education then they made it a religion to follow.

That's still an overused cliche that doesn't have any basis in anything. A 'god' that is manmade isn't God. So right out of the gate you aren't talking about the same thing. God, the Creator, is infinite and has no beginning or end.

And the badly overused cliche that religion was made to keep man in check falls flat because if that were the case, it ain't working. We read about our free will in the Bible and we are given a choice. And reverence of the Lord is the BEGINNING of wisdom.

sorry so long to get back to answer but to answer some one that has been brain washed as bad as you have every thing will be a "cliche" which translates into a closed mind. One that only sees what some one else tells it to see and what to think! Have you EVER ONCE picked up a book from another religion and studied it, asked questions about it formed an opinion by your self? Try studying some thing for thirty five years reading, asking questions, getting asked to leave, then after you have done that you will realize that like I said: It was first used to keep the illiterate in check. They feared the wrath of god and hell little did they know they were going through hell right then. Later on when people learned to read they instilled it into them that if you were good you went to heaven if not you went to hell. But some still wanted to stick to the old ways so the Vatican declared anybody not practicing Catholicism was a witch and was to be burned at the stake. Priests from other religions went into hiding, they say and nobody realy no for sure, but from monks diaries they have found some Chuches burned as many as "3785 witches in this year of the lord" now if they had free will and did not want to worship and god had them burned then... You can keep your "god" because he dose nothing to stop cancer, starvation, floods, dease, he is a blind "god", YEA I KNOW It's all a CLICHE there I said it for you. But start thinking for your self!!!!!

It is a common response to people that respond to the common cliches and attacks on Christianity to challenge someone to open a book or go read, etc... And I'm not brianwashed either. I would challenge that people who make the same comments over and over, and rip off George Carlin's comedy routine and repeat the same cliches over and over about Christianity that THEY are brainwashed. Because they repeat the same mistakes and it is evident that they haven't even researched what the cliche or phrase is even talking about. If it isn't brainwashing, it is simpy the choice of some to only believe what they have been told and repeat the same things over and over.

One does not have to study the hundreds of thousands of religions to arrive at the conclusion that following Jesus as THE way, THE truth, and THE life is the only path. For example, for me to believe that 2+2=4, I don't have to know an infinite number of wrong answers to know that 4 is the right one. And yes, I think for myself. The Bible in the New Testament actually commands for us to "prove all things and hold fast to that which is good", which means to check it out for yourself and stick to what is right.

>>Yeah... right. "Penned by man but written by god".

Yes, it is. Not because I say it is, but because it is validated archaeologically, historically, and items like the freshwater springs, paths of the sea, to name a few.

>> Howabout: "bulls**t". It was penned by men who are too weak to cope with the reality of life, and managed to pursuade others to believe the same by use of trickery or force.

This is a cliche, and a rather overused one. If you ever do actually read scripture, you don't see weak people that had to make something up in order to cope. These people were sharing the gospel back when people were persecuted for it. Would you have the intestinal fortitude to talk about Jesus knowing that you would be killed? They did it anyway. Is that a sign of weakness? I'd like to see you stand up for something like that. That doesn't have any resemblance to weakness at all.

>>And your theory about the bible predicting the existence of freshwater springs at the bottom of the ocean? It's called a prediction. I could predict that aliens exist, and who knows, thousands of years later aliens might come, but that does not mean a book I might've wrote it in means it's real.

There are more than predictions. Look up Matthew Maury, the founder of modern oceanic study. He read about the paths of the sea written in scripture. He took God's word literally and said if God said there are paths of the sea, I will set out to find them. And he did. And his discoveries founded the study of oceanic currents. No, this wasn't just some wild prediction that somebody made. And this isn't the only examples. There are many if you are willing to look instead of blindly follow what others say about the Bible without actually reading it.

>>We were brought here by evolution, chimpanzees are our distant relatives, and our bone structure is pure proof that evolution is real.

Ok what was this about blind faith, or blindly following something. What is the evidence for this? We have bones, and that is proof for evolution? If that doesn't sound like blindly following something, I don't know what is. Common design would denote a common Designer. That's all that means. And a common Designer would use similar structure.

>>Adult fairytale my ass. The real fairytale is god, the bible, and all that other load of crap. If god was real, would he supposedly let good people die in Iraq, or full-scale genocides come up

Yes, evolution is an adults fairytale. And it is a shame that it has shipwrecked science. Instead of supposedly intelligent people following SCIENTIFIC PRINCIPLES, they are chasing theories like man is a distant relative of field mice, or we all came from pond scum over a billion years ago or more. And God doesn't "let people die". That's another overused, underthought cliche. Things happen that aren't God's will. Does that mean it is God's will? No. We can read about things in the Bible that happen that aren't God's will. Again this is simply an issue of someone not comprehending, or not bothering to look up what's in the Bible.


>>Your belief is demented, and if I were you, I would open my eyes to reality and k nowledge. To believe blindly is like letting someone lead you off a cliff. Boy do I feel sorry for you.


You're the one thinking great great great great great grandpa was a chimpanzee. Don't feel sorry for me. You're the one entertaining some really screwed up SWAG science as evolutionism. You are blindly following a superstitious belief in evolutionism. You think that we all came from pond scum that was struck by lightning.

Nobody has proved a single page was inspired by "God" all they proved that they were written around give or take 500 years the time of Jesus. But you say you know so much about the "Bible" why isn't the Gospel of Mary Magdalene in the "Bible". Because she was a women .

I've already given examples that can't just be "explained away" by you or any other typical Bible scoffer. It's accurate historically, archaeologically, prophetically, as well as the phenomena that was recorded in scripture 2000 years before it was "discovered" by our modern "science". Maybe you missed that part or purposely overlooked it. I haven't said I know "so much about the Bible". Unlike typical atheists on here, I admit there's a lot I don't know. I don't claim to have infinite knowledge of everything out there.

You can't just ignore what's in the Bible though. That is called willful ignorance, and that is actually adressed in scripture as well. You have to realize that the Bible has been around for a long time. It's an anvil that has broken many a hammer. There's been tons of Bible scoffers that try to explain it away, but to no avail.

Validated historically, archeology. Hmmm. Maybe because the author lived in the real world?

Hey, I was a christian once, and then I became Catholic. I even went to church school for ten years. If anything, I know all the crap that has lain in the bible all these centuries. Oh sure, if the bible existed, those men were probably strong etc. But today, if a man puts a gun to your head, do you pray and god makes it all better? Or, in reality, you get shot and die a bloody death.

As I said, I read the bible when I actually was into it all those years ago. And here's my explanation about those "oceanic currents". All those years ago when the bible was written, I'll bet that there were fishermen. And those fishermen, to be exact, probably fished all those years and eventually realized about the freshwater springs etc. They came into the village, told about them, and the author of the bible was like "Oh cool. Now I have something else to put in my fantasy book!"

"We have bones, and that is proof for evolution?" Oh that totally cracked me up. I said 'bone structure" not "we have bones". Scientists prooved that our bone structure is almost exactly alike chimpanzees. Hell, we even used to have tails. Ever wonder why we have something called a tail-bone? Not just because it's located on your rear, but because there's traces of bone structure that had been fit to have tails until man evolved, and didn't need tails anymore.

Oh hoh, "pond scum struck by lightning" used over and over in each of your posts. Yes, indeed, single celled organisms eventually evolved into multicelled organisms, and into our distant relatives into what we are today. Ever researched caveman? They're jaw bones were much more alike to our distant relatives (primapes mind you, not "field mice") than ours are today. Proof? It's right in front of your face if you opened your eyes.

And hell, if god was real etc and the bible was real, how come we don't see any of that crap today? No random masses of living beings appearing out of nowhere, no "adam and eve" appearing and giving birth to civilization. And get this, "a time before time" meant that early humans were perfectly civilized, no dinosaurs were on earth. And right, "dinosaurs weren't created yet". And then, "humans suddenly devolved into cavemen and early civilizations" and "dinosaurs appeared after humans".

Thank you and goodnight.

>>Validated historically, archeology. Hmmm. Maybe because the author lived in the real world?

Yes, they did live in the real world. Several different people gave their accounts. Different views on the same thing and they all add up together. Similarly if four people gave an account of a car wreck. They were all standing on a different corner, and they would give different accounts of the same event. That's what we see in the gospels.

>>Hey, I was a christian once, and then I became Catholic. I even went to church school for ten years. If anything, I know all the crap that has lain in the bible all these centuries. Oh sure, if the bible existed, those men were probably strong etc. But today, if a man puts a gun to your head, do you pray and god makes it all better? Or, in reality, you get shot and die a bloody death.

The existence of the Bible isn't something that is in question. We know it exists. When the Dead Sea Scrolls were discovered, what was recorded on them actually agreed with the Bible. So this shot down any accusations that it was changed over time. And yes you would be surprised at what prayer can do. I've heard accounts where people did pray and guns malfunctioned and it ended up there wasn't anything wrong with it. There was another account where an old lady started witnessing to the gunman, in effect disarming him. You can go all day long talking about things like this.

>>As I said, I read the bible when I actually was into it all those years ago. And here's my explanation about those "oceanic currents". All those years ago when the bible was written, I'll bet that there were fishermen. And those fishermen, to be exact, probably fished all those years and eventually realized about the freshwater springs etc. They came into the village, told about them, and the author of the bible was like "Oh cool. Now I have something else to put in my fantasy book!"

Well, it wasn't that easy. The oceanic currents were hundreds of miles away from any of the fishing boats of that age so they couldn't have just accidentally discovered them. And the freshwater springs were several thousand feet below the surface, out in the middle of the ocean so again somebody didn't just accidentally discover them and then go tell others so they could put it in some "fantasy book".



>>"We have bones, and that is proof for evolution?" Oh that totally cracked me up. I said 'bone structure" not "we have bones". Scientists prooved that our bone structure is almost exactly alike chimpanzees. Hell, we even used to have tails. Ever wonder why we have something called a tail-bone? Not just because it's located on your rear, but because there's traces of bone structure that had been fit to have tails until man evolved, and didn't need tails anymore.

And I said similar design denotes a common designer. My field is in engineering, primarily structural. What I see is when something works, you often see it repeated in other different structures. We have similar structures in buildings because they work. They don't fail so they are repeated. Same thing in nature. We have common designs that work, therefore they are used over and over.

And the tail bone isn't a vestigial organ. The human tailbone actually has important muscles and tendons attached to it that perform very important bodily functions. Now if you truly believe that the tailbone is a vestigial organ and doesn't have any function today, I will pay to have yours removed so you can see for yourself.

>>Oh hoh, "pond scum struck by lightning" used over and over in each of your posts. Yes, indeed, single celled organisms eventually evolved into multicelled organisms, and into our distant relatives into what we are today. Ever researched caveman? They're jaw bones were much more alike to our distant relatives (primapes mind you, not "field mice") than ours are today. Proof? It's right in front of your face if you opened your eyes.

You have deviated from the recent beliefs in evolutionism. Modern evolutionists/neodarwinists are distancing themselves from talk about origins. Some have abandoned the pond scum theory. They just say that all the different species, etc... just "showed up" at some point in history and everything evolved from there. Sounds like a cop out to me. And I am aware of the hoaxes, like piltdown man, lucy, etc... So the evolutionists track record still isn't very good.

>>And hell, if god was real etc and the bible was real, how come we don't see any of that crap today? No random masses of living beings appearing out of nowhere, no "adam and eve" appearing and giving birth to civilization. And get this, "a time before time" meant that early humans were perfectly civilized, no dinosaurs were on earth. And right, "dinosaurs weren't created yet". And then, "humans suddenly devolved into cavemen and early civilizations" and "dinosaurs appeared after humans".

Why would we see Adam and Eve again? And are you not aware that even some "scientists" have admitted that it looks like all humans did "evolve" from an "adam and eve". Not sure what you mean about random masses appearing. There are scriptures about the miracles that would cease because they were used to confirm the Word.

>> And yes you would be surprised at what prayer can do. I've heard accounts where people did pray and guns malfunctioned and it ended up there wasn't anything wrong with it. There was another account where an old lady started witnessing to the gunman, in effect disarming him.

Wow that gunman must have a weak mind. Seriously. As for the gun malfunction, there can't be "nothing wrong" with it. If it wouldn't fire, he either doesn't take care of it, or there's a defect in the gun.

>>And I said similar design denotes a common designer. My field is in engineering, primarily structural. What I see is when something works, you often see it repeated in other different structures. We have similar structures in buildings because they work. They don't fail so they are repeated. Same thing in nature. We have common designs that work, therefore they are used over and over.

Ho hum. Humans evolved from primapes, and as Earth changes environmentally, we eventually adapt to the changes and thus our bodies evolved to suit the environment. A great example of that today is (I think in Africa or Asia) gorillas actually wading through water, using only their two feet. Eventually, primapes would learn to use their two feet and evolve to mankind, or caveman.

>>You have deviated from the recent beliefs in evolutionism. Modern evolutionists/neodarwinists are distancing themselves from talk about origins. Some have abandoned the pond scum theory. They just say that all the different species, etc... just "showed up" at some point in history and everything evolved from there. Sounds like a cop out to me. And I am aware of the hoaxes, like piltdown man, lucy, etc... So the evolutionists track record still isn't very good.

*Waits for explanation of cavemen* So, how do you explain today's human animal differing structurally from the past human animal? Or the fact that humans from the bible somehow decivilised to cavemen? Or the fact that dinosaurs weren't in the bible though it was supposed to be wayyyy back. And don't say that dinosuars came after the civilized humans in the bible, because if there were, there would be some type of fossil evidence in the Earth's layers. Things as small as tadpoles turn up in fossils, that shouldn't make the "bible humans" any different.

Finally, the bible doesn't mention anything about extra terrestrials. Denying that they exist is futile, bacteria was found on Mars from an ancient comet, and think of the sheer size of the universe. If you open yours eyes just a bit wider, you'll find trillions of light years of space to the out rim of our universe, maybe even past that. And god only made one planet with life? Or, god supposedly made the universe but only had the capacity to make one planet's species? Beyond that, there are multiple species on earth, so put that in a universal retrospect, and there are multiple species in the universe. And somehow, just somehow, the bible/"god" forgot to "mention" that there is life out there. (as I said, bacteria are microscopic organisms and are life).

So, in conclusion, try to explain all that.

>>Wow that gunman must have a weak mind. Seriously. As for the gun malfunction, there can't be "nothing wrong" with it. If it wouldn't fire, he either doesn't take care of it, or there's a defect in the gun.

You can call it coincidence but it's happened time and time again and there isn't anything really to explain it. Some think we can use science to explain literally everything but we can't, and some aren't readily willing to accept that.


>>Ho hum. Humans evolved from primapes, and as Earth changes environmentally, we eventually adapt to the changes and thus our bodies evolved to suit the environment. A great example of that today is (I think in Africa or Asia) gorillas actually wading through water, using only their two feet. Eventually, primapes would learn to use their two feet and evolve to mankind, or caveman.

It's a huge leap of faith to think simple adaptation is some earth shattering example of evolution. You are free to believe such things and I'm not saying you can't. I don't buy it, mainly because there isn't any evidence to support it - what we see is "scientists" shoe-horning data to fit a preconceived notion. Such as horse evolution, for example. And I've seen footage of a gorilla smoking a cigarette. Is that supposed to be some sort of evolution too? It's simply a belief, not science.

>>*Waits for explanation of cavemen* So, how do you explain today's human animal differing structurally from the past human animal? Or the fact that humans from the bible somehow decivilised to cavemen? Or the fact that dinosaurs weren't in the bible though it was supposed to be wayyyy back. And don't say that dinosuars came after the civilized humans in the bible, because if there were, there would be some type of fossil evidence in the Earth's layers. Things as small as tadpoles turn up in fossils, that shouldn't make the "bible humans" any different.

Are you talking about humans, or animals? We can find fossil remains of different apes, etc... but they aren't human. And dinosaurs are mentioned in the Bible. It doesn't say "dinosaur" but it talks about different creatures that would fit their definition of dinosaurs. So you can't say it isn't in there, when there are passages that sounds like they are talking about dinosaurs. And there is a huge problem with the "fossil layers". There's actually a contradiction between fossils dating the strata, or the strata dating the fossils. You can pick up one textbook and it will have contradicting wording. It's so inconsistent, you can't honestly make a case with anything concerning the fossil strata.

>>Finally, the bible doesn't mention anything about extra terrestrials. Denying that they exist is futile, bacteria was found on Mars from an ancient comet, and think of the sheer size of the universe. If you open yours eyes just a bit wider, you'll find trillions of light years of space to the out rim of our universe, maybe even past that. And god only made one planet with life? Or, god supposedly made the universe but only had the capacity to make one planet's species? Beyond that, there are multiple species on earth, so put that in a universal retrospect, and there are multiple species in the universe. And somehow, just somehow, the bible/"god" forgot to "mention" that there is life out there. (as I said, bacteria are microscopic organisms and are life).

Actually there is a passage in Matthew, I think that talks about "other sheep" that hear His voice. Does that mean other people or beings somewhere else? I don't know. It might, or might not. But no, the Bible doesn't address bacteria on Mars or the like, but that doesn't mean you can throw the whole thing out.

>>You can call it coincidence but it's happened time and time again and there isn't anything really to explain it. Some think we can use science to explain literally everything but we can't, and some aren't readily willing to accept that.

No offense (though I admit that it does sound offensive), but those who are willing to believe everything without proof are probably going to be the first to die by fighting a religious war etc. because they follow blindly. Proof is something that has cropped up time and again and the main reason we know what we know today is proof. Big things need big proof (god), but no proof doesn't necesarilly mean that big things don't exist. Just like the Loch ness monster, I am still willing to accept things like god, I just don't believe in it. (if its real, shouldn't only be a 'he', should it? That would be sexist.)

>>It's a huge leap of faith to think simple adaptation is some earth shattering example of evolution. You are free to believe such things and I'm not saying you can't. I don't buy it, mainly because there isn't any evidence to support it

Oh sorry, I minced up my own words in that paragraph. There's a show called life on earth or something like that on BBC, narrated by the famed scientist David Attenborough. There, footage of chimpanzees wading through water on their hind legs, where they usually can't but the water supports their legs. This is a prime example of adaptation. There's fossil evidence that mankind started off in a sort of marshy landscape, and no doubt there that they started off on all fours, but adapted to the environment to stand up straight. Thus, they evolved from four legged animals to two legged animals.

>>Are you talking about humans, or animals? We can find fossil remains of different apes, etc... but they aren't human. And dinosaurs are mentioned in the Bible. It doesn't say "dinosaur" but it talks about different creatures that would fit their definition of dinosaurs. So you can't say it isn't in there, when there are passages that sounds like they are talking about dinosaurs. And there is a huge problem with the "fossil layers". There's actually a contradiction between fossils dating the strata, or the strata dating the fossils. You can pick up one textbook and it will have contradicting wording. It's so inconsistent, you can't honestly make a case with anything concerning the fossil strata.

Oh yes you can, actually. It's common sense that the bottom layer of something is the oldest, because, over time, things break down and are covered by the constantly travelling upper layer. Therefore, scientists have found that 'primapes' in the bottom layer seem to evolve as the progress to the upper layers, as in, become humans. My case is done, now what about the cavemen? They weren't in the bible. How could seemingly civilized people decivilize as they progressed to our time?

>>Actually there is a passage in Matthew, I think that talks about "other sheep" that hear His voice. Does that mean other people or beings somewhere else? I don't know. It might, or might not. But no, the Bible doesn't address bacteria on Mars or the like, but that doesn't mean you can throw the whole thing out.

Fine, but suppose, if alien were real, do you think that their religion would happen to corrospond with christianity or budhism in any way? Maybe, but things like Mary or jesus wouldn't be there would it? They were supposedly human. you could say that 'god' made a bible for each and every race, but for what? to spread the word that "Hey, my name is God and I created you. Now, worship me for I am a jealous God and will bring wrath upon you if you don't."
Not ruling out that A god doesn't exist, but I just don't think the bible stuff is probable, nor even a god.

Well, I did a bit more research and I found out that the ark etc. had been found in places corrosponding witht the bible. But, if you look at it this way, the bible could be a history book and as time goes on, history gets changed and exaggerated. (as in, all that god hocus pocus stuff) Now, a flood, there was evidence of that in the earth. The earth's climate rapidly changes, heats up and cools down. The defrostation of a glacier, thus causing the flood? or tropical monsoons coming non stop and causing the flood? history, the ark did exist and did end up in the place where it was found. all those scrolls and stuff were written in the past and found in the future, just like the pyramids and mayan temples. does that mean the magic of god exists? no, just parts in the bible, for all we know, is greatly exaggerated.

>>No offense (though I admit that it does sound offensive), but those who are willing to believe everything without proof are probably going to be the first to die by fighting a religious war etc. because they follow blindly. Proof is something that has cropped up time and again and the main reason we know what we know today is proof. Big things need big proof (god), but no proof doesn't necesarilly mean that big things don't exist. Just like the Loch ness monster, I am still willing to accept things like god, I just don't believe in it. (if its real, shouldn't only be a 'he', should it? That would be sexist.)

None taken. At least you aren't ruling out the possibility that there is a Creator. That alone has set you way ahead of many others. Out of the realm of atheism into agnostic. I think an agnostic is being a little more intellectually honest than an atheist. While an atheist says point blank, there isn't a God, an agnostic admits they "don't know" if God exists or not. At least there you have an open mind while on the other side of the spectrum, an atheist doesn't. As for proof, I believe as well as many others, that Creation is proof. Scripture says it is a testimony to God. Also we are proof. Gallup was quoted as saying that humans are proof of God because it is a "statistical monstrosity" to believe otherwise. For example, a building is proof of a builder. Even though I didn't see the building being built, the building itself would be proof enough for me that the building did indeed have a builder. As a matter of fact, I couldn't ask for better proof of a builder than to have one of his buildings right in front of me. Similarly with a painting. A painting is proof of a painter. I couldn't ask for better proof of a painter than to have one of his paintings right in front of me.

So the take-home point is that Creation is proof of a Creator. We haven't observed otherwise, that all this order, all the laws of physics, and laws of the universe just came about from random chance. So apart from my personal testimony - something I have witnessed firsthand and no one can dispute or take away from me, we have Creation itself as a testimony of God. Now scripture continues to say that despite God's handiwork evident in creation, there will be some that remain "willfully ignorant" of this. These are the same people that used 1Kings 7:23 to say the Bible has the value of pi as 3.0 but don't bother to keep reading that the brass bowl has a THICKNESS and if that is factored in, pi doesn't come out to be 3.0.

We say God as a "He" even though God is Spirit, in the same fasion we say "man" to represent mankind - men and women. Has nothing to do with being sexist.

>>Oh yes you can, actually. It's common sense that the bottom layer of something is the oldest, because, over time, things break down and are covered by the constantly travelling upper layer. Therefore, scientists have found that 'primapes' in the bottom layer seem to evolve as the progress to the upper layers, as in, become humans. My case is done, now what about the cavemen? They weren't in the bible. How could seemingly civilized people decivilize as they progressed to our time?

You would think, and it would make sense, but we actually observe things found that are closer to the surface that were belived to be much older, and then find things buried several layers deep that were once believed to be much younger. We can also observe petrified trees that pass through several layers of strata that contradict what we would commonly believe to be dated. So with all of those observations, it is no surprise that we can even see contradictions in science books on the topic of dating strata or fossils. One passage says the fossils date the strata and in another it says the strata dates the fossils.

>>Fine, but suppose, if alien were real, do you think that their religion would happen to corrospond with christianity or budhism in any way? Maybe, but things like Mary or jesus wouldn't be there would it? They were supposedly human. you could say that 'god' made a bible for each and every race, but for what? to spread the word that "Hey, my name is God and I created you. Now, worship me for I am a jealous God and will bring wrath upon you if you don't."
Not ruling out that A god doesn't exist, but I just don't think the bible stuff is probable, nor even a god.

I've often wondered what that passage was talking about - if it is indeed adressing other life out there. I'm guessing they would have the same problems we have here - those who believe, those who are not sure, and those who say we just came about through random chance.

>>Well, I did a bit more research and I found out that the ark etc. had been found in places corrosponding witht the bible. But, if you look at it this way, the bible could be a history book and as time goes on, history gets changed and exaggerated. (as in, all that god hocus pocus stuff) Now, a flood, there was evidence of that in the earth. The earth's climate rapidly changes, heats up and cools down. The defrostation of a glacier, thus causing the flood? or tropical monsoons coming non stop and causing the flood? history, the ark did exist and did end up in the place where it was found. all those scrolls and stuff were written in the past and found in the future, just like the pyramids and mayan temples. does that mean the magic of god exists? no, just parts in the bible, for all we know, is greatly exaggerated.

It's interesting that flood legends permeate several different religions all over the world. Back then it was highly unlikely, or downright impossible for someone to have traveled all over the world to tell everyone to write about a flood legend so perhaps all the different accounts of the same event may lead to the credibility of the event itself. The Bible hasn't been updated throughout history though. The Dead Sea Scrolls are a relatively recent discovery and they support what is found in scripture as we know it today. Also the Bible has been translated into several different languages, and even the scribes in the Bible days were extremely careful in copying texts - if one letter was wrong, the whole thing was thrown out. Also they couldn't change scripture all over the world at the same time, making it downright impossible for the claim that it was edited along the way.

you have some twisted, distorted, basically screwed up view of a person who believes in God. It is like you are looking through a lens smeared with grease or something. You are basically describing traits of an unbeliever, having no fear of retribution. Start over. Pay attention, and don't "try religion", just OBSERVE and BELIEVE with an open mind. Instead of spouting off a bunch of BS that doesn't even fit in the first place.

This video appears to be produced by someone who believes God created all things and he posted this video in appreciation of it. We as humans dont have the ability to prove anything. All we can do is have faith. Instead of blasting the guy, why not allow him his appreciation of his faith and enjoy the video?

He's asking the question in his title, and people are answering it. He isn't asking, "don't you appreciate this video of some birds?"

Now I will show you a dead bird from the avian flu.

god is a fictional character made in a fictional book called the bible. Some argue that there's real landmarks in it, but obviously, there's real landmarks in the earth which then the author implemented in the book. Also, there is no proof that god is real while there's plenty of proof about evolution. slow-mo birds have absolutely nothing to do with god unless you believe him. So, if I posted a video of a fat kid running slow-mo, does that mean that god, or santa, or the tooth fary exists?

You are saying god [sic] is a fictional character in a fictional book called the bible [sic]. Based on what? Obviously you are smarter than everybody else and hold absolute knowledge of the universe. So tell us what this earth shattering bit of information is based upon? Nevermind that the Bible is accurate historically, archaeoligcally, prophetically, and even has things recorded in it that predate "scientific" discovery (such as freshwater springs at the bottom of the ocean, oceanic currents) etc... A whole lot of things to keep you busy trying to explain away.

So try again dude, you just screwed up.

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The bad things happen in this world because we all have free will. God does not force His Love on us. He allows us to decide for ourselves how to treat one another. We do not always make wise choices, so bad things happen. Read Genesis for more info.

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Human did.

Obviously this is an age old debate. Your points are valid. But still, when you look at the beauty, complexity and mystery of the universe ..one could apply that to some higher power, a god. A god that created the universe and the physics within, including evolution ..and just watches as it plays out.