Collapse Of Darwinism

does any1 even watch these videos before making a comment about them?? i dnt think so, because most of their so called scientific evidences are already refuted in the videos. i can understand some of the people who make bad comments here because that is their job. they are well known to me from their comments on all the other videos that have anything to do with religion. its funny how they say that they are atheists and dnt care about religion yet they come to the religious videos and spread their filthy comments all over them. i read that the american goverment(free masons) hire 8000 jews to spread bad stuff about islam and all religions, because religion is the only thing which would come between them and their materialistic goals. And their work is evident from looking at any religious vid on metacafe or youtube or any other site. hope a common person reading this comment reflect on this for a little moment.

The evidence for God is creation. We can know based on the many evidences that a creator exists, but we cannot know behond a shadow of a doubt anything about this creator. There are many religions so its impossible to know with our minds what is the true one. We could know however, if he showed up and proved that He was God and then explained why he created this etc. The God of Christ explains the AIDS, cancer, crime rates, murder rates, R**es , durgs, pain and suffering, as man's doing. He says that after He was done creating that everthing was perfect. But man's disobedience brought death and suffering into the world. It appears that God has backed off the scene quite a bit since then. He does not want to force Himself on us, but rather wants to be invited, and sought after.

that go a long way to disproving creationism / intelligent design.
The weaknesses, vulnerabilities, and superfluities in human design (and that of many creatures) are easily explained by evolution.
Creationists / Intelligent Designers have to chose between God being a very imperfect engineer or one with a very malevolent sense of humour. Neither seems likely to appeal to the religious!

"We can know based on the many evidences that a creator exists"
What evidence ??????????

We all have access to the same evidence.. being science. The question is how we interpret the evidence.

The evidence of God is creation? Why would you even think that way? Let me tell you why.

Creation is unexplained. At best there is a scientific theory - the big bang - which sounds equally wrong as religion, to me. But when something can't be explained AT THIS POINT it doesn't qualify as proof for a god.

1500 Years ago lightning and fire were proof for the existance of a god. The cycle of the sun coming up each day was proof for a god. Nowadays science can prove to anyone without any doubt how fire works, how lightning works, how the sun comes up every day.

But we can't, not YET anyway, explain the origin of the universe. In due time we will explain just that. And then what will be your "proof"?

I think that gods and religions are an unavoidable part for any civilization that reaches a certain level of intelligence. It's a necessity to cope with life and the horrors we experience. People want to believe because it's so convenient and because over thousands of years of believing it just feels like the right thing to do.

AIDS, cancer, crime, murder and all that are not necessarily wrong things on the grand scale of our being. It thins out the population I guess. But you can't say they are human creations.

The leaders of the church want us to believe that AIDS comes from homosexuals, but nowadays we know better. They like us to believe condoms are wrong, but many of us know better.

Bah..

I'm done writing, I can't convice anyone and I don't want to, really. Most religious people are good people, and live a happy life. But really.. I wish we could all live a happy life without a friend that might be imaginary.

Or in the words of my boss: "What, without a god, is the goal of life?" My answer was simple. "Death." Seemed rather evident to me, all life eventually ends with death.

Try explaining that to someone who has lost his wife, a daughter and who has a terminally ill son.

Ironically, he was an atheist before all the above happened. Seems to me the human mind can only handle a certain amount of pressure until he gives in to something that will comfort him enough until..

.. his own demise.

You are going to tell me why I think a certain way? That's silly.

Creation is unexplained, but the fact that it exists is evidence for design. The amount of information in one human being is amazing. Even excluding the information encoded in your DNA, what about the information in your head? A simple argument for creation is an argument that dismantles evolution. There are many holes and weaknesses in evolution that have never been resolved. Most evolutionists have such faith in their religion that they ignore the weaknesses. This is true for all religions. When there is an emotional element at stake, most people are unwilling to question their core beliefs.

Why do you think the big bang sounds as wrong as religion? It seems reasonable to me that since the universe is expanding that it may have, in the past, existed very close together as a singular. This is possible, but as most questions of origins, no way of knowing.

I heard that 10% of Europeans have a natural genetic immunity to AIDS and, like apes, the HIV virus lives in harmony with the organism. They compared this to a feline immune deficiency in which wild cats can carry the virus with no harm, but domestic cats will develop an immune deficiency.

An evolutionist would argue that Europeans have adapted through random mutation and natural selection. A problem with this scenario is that Africans are the ones with the AIDS epidemic and Africans have a zero percent immunity in their population.

A creationist interpretation is that all things from the beginning were built to exist in stability and harmony, but death, disease, war, famine etc., has caused a lot of genetic information to be lost. So instead of 10% of the European pop. gaining a useful gene, 90% have lost this useful gene.

Same data, different interpretation.

This "same data, different interpretation" can be and should be applied to all areas of interpretation. I believe that the perspective of this never ending argument of origins is best viewed from either a creationist, or a person who has been a creationist in the past. Almost 100% of all scientific writings assume that evolution is true. Creationists who love science get their fill of the evolutionist perspective, but evolutions do fully understand the perspective of a creationist.

It is not enough to know a few fundamental ideas. As the evolutionist says over and over "If you can only imagine." This is true in both creation and evolution. The evidence is not even close to being conclusive on either side. Both views can use the same scientific data and conclude their own perspective without any obvious contradictions. This is the dilemma. After the evidences are understood, at the end of the day the key arguments are; The evolutionist reasons that the idea of a god is absurd therefore evolution is true, and the creationist reasons that the idea that all life originated from a rock is absurd, therefore God exists.

I think most evolutionists are really trying to understand the universe. The only problem is that they cannot simply say, "I don't know." This is with religious fervor that scientists want to have an explanation to everything.

I know that your goal is not death. If this was the case you would simply kill yourself. According to evolution there is no goal. Life is just an accident, and natural selection is simply a natural mechanism which they claim causes speciation. But we all know it needs some other mechanism such as beneficial mutation.

If evolution is true, why is the universe geared for life? This would be on the same plane of questions that ask, why is gravity attractive instead of repulsive, and why does matter exist at all?

It seems evident to me that death is bad. And I believe I have a natural compass within me, being reason, telling me right from wrong. This compass is justice, which leads me to believe there will be a judgment (of course this is subjective rather than objective reasoning).

It is easier for a creationist to convert to an evolutionist than an evolutionist to a creationist. Do you know why? The feeling and thought you are having now is the answer. This feeling is the demise and the cancer of the whole planet. If we could only lay down our weapons and let the fog of prejudice and division leave the area, then we might be able to see things more clearly.

if it is objective. Subjective reasoning is an oxymoron. Better call it wishfull thinking.
There is no room for interpretation of the latest research into genetic markers. The fact, mechanism, and process of evolution are all proved. You can ignore that or you can adapt your thinking to include it. But too deny it is to claim water is not wet (which claim, sadly, will not save you from drowning).

A perfect god (your one) makes only perfect things (like us) that are not so perfect after all, since we provoque wars and desseases? etc. Since he is perfect and allknowing, he knew all the time that we were a bunch of unreliable bastards but somehow he didn't mind (because its that or that he didn't know that we were such bastards and he is not so perfect and all knowing after all)
Any way he has all the power but want's to be invited to act... i mean... are we crazy or stupid? it doesn't stand a reason, you really have to push it to the limit to belive in this.
In my atheistic and ignorant opinion, since the beguining of the universe and earth everything was a kind of accident that became more and more complicated (can compare with the law of entropy as the second law of thermodynamics). After many, many accidents we came to life as the most complicated accident ever (well, not really, live was the most complicated accident, from there everything was downhill) but since the beguining things had to fight and smart up for surviving, there is no eden (and if there was, was only for your adam and eve)
In your theory God allpowerfull made a whole eden for a single person, the created eve just for his company (soooo typical pro-macho religion) then because of her, ofcourse, the get kicked out and then the rest of us come to life, since then God never did anything for nobody spetially not for the jews his favourite folk (a perfect thing has a favourite folk???) except sending jesus to be killed, funny enouth, by the jews...
You say "god has backed off since then..." god has never done anything except ask a few people to tell lots of people that they must believe and suffer.
You know what? If you really believe in all this there is no point in keep on writting, forget what i said and keep on believing in your god, santa claus, the tooth fairy and that you will eventually win the lotery.
Have a nice life
(i'm glad i'm so ignorant i'm atheist, oderwise i would feel sooo stupid)
lol

its funny that evolutionist main argument is always, either a) assuming evolution is true without giving evidence, or b) saying empty phrases like this guy "scientific evidence supports evolution".

No one can give any hard evidence. Its because their isn't any. The strongest evidence we have of origins is the fossils. And there simply isn't enough data to make a conclusive convincing theory. But they act like their is.

How would dogs evolve in the wild: wolves, hyenas, African wild dogs, foxes, etc. etc. etc.
Can life come from a rock? no, but inorganic cells can be made organic with tiny changes (it's been done in the lab) and we know that all life evolved from single cellular organic life.
Can a fish become a man? No, but they have a known common ancestor. And the question shows a complete lack of understanding of evolution.
Please read the latest research. Our knowledge of the process of evolution has increased a hundredfold in recent years and proof certainly exists of macro changes.

to be able to look at, for example the cat family or the primates and not say, "Oh yeah, I can see how evolution worked."
Actually, now with the mapping of genomes and identification of genetic markers, evolution is proved beyond a doubt and its mechanisms well understood. Even the Pope publicly agreed in 1998.

Faith is based on just that. God works on faith, not proof. Douglas Adams (I think) made a great point when god ceased to exist after proving himself with the Babel Fish. There isn't a thing wrong with believing that the entire set up with evolution is due to a higher being making it so, but to say that animals don't evolve is ludicrous. The Bible isn't a work of non-fiction; Moses didn't actually live for 800 years, and while it was law to stone someone to death for touching the skin of a pig, it isn't any more (and probably never should have been) and while there may have been a huge flood, there wasn't some guy who put one of every living thing on a boat and waited the storm out while everything around him died. The boat would have had to be huge. In fact, maybe that did happen. Maybe Noah put one of every living thing on the boat, but at that time there weren't too many animals, so they have all evolved since... what a conundrum...

There is nothing psychotic about backing up your belief with facts.

As for the misused, mistated, twisted, and mistaked evidence.... thats all on the evolution side.

Ive glanced at this issue over the years... there is certainly no proof on evolutions side... and really evidence on evolutions side should be defined as " possible for evolution.. impossible for creation" and there has been none of that either.

To this date.... there has been not 1 single piece of evidence that proves the bible description of the beginning of the earth wrong... Correct? After 150 years of digging and enormous funding.... Nothing???? yet it is taught as fact in public schools????

completely ommiting any mention whatsoever of any dinosours. If bloody great animals like that were created, don't you think there would be SOMTHING? I mean, you won't debate that they existed, so explain why......

these videos r work of harun yahya, a muslim from turkey. muslims don't believe that the world is 5000 years old.

just like evolutionist do, you can handle the truth

it is just a bunch of F**k i n g ignorance or politicians trying to brainwash people with their hyperthetical believes.... These days, I dont read a F**k on major medias if it is something big... They are design to brainwash or misguide general public who depends only on mainstream medias.... Love internet....

animals which look alike is the primary evidence which started the theory of evolution.

horrible belief, probably a funded video by chritianity groups

you can get the whole series plus many many more at www.aswatalislam . net
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u'll find these under harun yahya in the video documteries section

at the NASA/Ames research lab took very simple chemicals found in space, lowered the temperature in a vacuum, and blasted it with intense UV (ultra-violet) light on it.

Complex carbon molecules were formed.

Complex carbon molecules are what all life on earth is based on.

I understand that's not the same as life, but it IS the foundation for it.

Of course arguments made durring Darwin's time are going to sound far fetched. Sponateous reproduction has been disproved for a very very long time indeed. Do not take what you learned in sunday school and try to apply it as scientific fact. It took the vatican until 1979 to officially agree the earth was not the center of the universe.

Free your mind.

so could he create a rock he couldn't lift?

Evolution and Creationism share many similarities. While most evolutionists would argue that one theory is better suited to logic than the other, neither holds any factual advantage over one another. Similarly evolution defined as true science is a flat argument. Only those with little to know idea of science will raise this issue while you will never hear or see true researchers raise such literary agreements over imaginary definitions of what science is and not.

Science presents evolution based on the evidence which surrounds as a basis for credibility whereas Creation uses the exact same approach. When we walk down both paths 'evolution vs. creation' it becomes quite clear that neither or theory holds any advantages over one another. While some will try to argue that evolution is science while Creation is not this agreement is meaningless since Creation on its own would be pure science in itself. The only true differences between Creation and evolution are the root factors. And under the circumstances, Creation offers an explanation whereas evolution has no explanations whatsoever.

Evolution as it were has no advantage over any other theory at this point. Perhaps someday this will change, but until then... this is what we have to work with. The onus is entirely up to each individual as to whether or not they choose to believe.

Furthermore, it is again people themselves who create conflicts, discrimination and racism and not God or Creation.

You're right. Not everyone believes in the theory of evolution... Only the intelligent do... Your stupidity is astounding.

It would have been more interesting if the "mockumentary" wasn´t full of blatant lies, half-truths and factual errors. Ex. Evolution is NOT governed by chance or "survival of the strongest". Its not dependent on a "complete" fossil record even though the most dramatic changes (water-land and land-air based life) are well documented in fossil records.

It would have been more interesting if ID/Creationism would argue its case on scientific grounds since its trying to disprove a scientific theory.

And by the way.

A SCIENTIFIC THEORY is a hypothesi backed by factual evidence, observations and/or recorded data that can be falsified. The theory of evolution is one of the most factualy supported theories we have to explain the natural world we experience.

We actually have more observed evidence and recorded data that supports evolution then we have that supports gravitation. But you dont here anyone scream about that now do you...

Any one up for some "Intelligent Falling"?

Religon and Science can not disprove or prove one another. They are not compatible as one deals with the supernatural and the other with the natural world. So keep them the f**k away from each other!

Ignorant religious fundamentalist... away with you!

Want to learn something? Start here: www.talkorigins.org ...or read anything by Richard Dawkins.

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Is this the best the Creationists can do?

Claim no 1: "There are significant gaps in the fossil record"

So what? Absence of Proof is not proof of absence.

Claim no 2: "The coelacanth, the shark, the turtle etcetera have not changed significantly over millions of years"

And what pray, about the thousands of species that have?

"Birds and Reptiles have almost no physical similarities. So Birds did not evolve from reptiles"

Using the same brilliant logic: An adult human being has no resemblance to an embryo. Therefore none of us were ever embryos.

This film is a travesty of science and common sense.

Unecessary offensiveness. Comment should be either corrected or deleted.

Whats offensive?

The lies put up as "facts" by the mockumentary?
The definition of a Scientific Theory?
Tha fact that regardless of the belifs of fundamentalist chistians the scientific theory of evolution is based on a monumental amount of observed and collected data and evidence?
The fact that we do have basically the same (or less) factual evidence regarding the causallity of gravitation but you dont scream your lungs out for "Intelligent Falling"?

This is typical Creationism retorics... base your arguments on misinterpreted evidence and half-truths... and when corrected by the opposite side... start whining about not having their belifs respected...

Science is not about belifs... its about describing the natural world to the best of our ability based on observation and falsifiable evidence...

The existance of God is NOT falsifiable and therfore neither provable. Religion and science does mix... they are not comparable...so stop trying.

Your only making an ass out of yourself proving you have no idea what science is yet still trying to argue based on what you precive as scientific grounds...

ID and Creationism does not belong in the scientific community as long as its dealing with the supernatural...

Since the mid 90's over 100.000 peer-reviewed papers have been published supporting and expanding the evidence for Darwinian Evolution. During that time ID and Creationism have produced... wait for it... can you guess? Zipp... Nada... not one paper...

And then you argue that Evolution does not have factual support...

Ignorant fools...

there is no need to beleive in God as in an higher force or something, "it" might be an alien from another planet, system, or whatever. Nevertheless, I would like to beleive in creator...

Everything was created by the creator not God..........