Power Of Quran By Yasir Mughal Jamil Ahmed London

if you understand Islam, you will know that is not right to blow up yourself and kill innocent people. Just go out of the Muslim countries and don't kill the Muslim in their own countries, so they have no other choice defending themselves and the extremists would have the big chance to distribute their extremisms.

Unless they are hindus, buddhists, animists etc. Christians, Jews, and Zoroastrians should only be enslaved. That is what the Quran says, is it not?

Give me the verse referance.

do you support the death penalty for apostacy and adultery?

I do, and I know these two topics are extremely sensitive and often deter people from Islam, but what people donot realise is, that Islam is a complete way of life rather than merely a religion

Apostasy is considered the same as treason, a person who openly rejects the Islamic faith and works against the Islamic state causing mayhem is punished in the same way that a person who betrays his country and helps its enemy against it

However if someone choses to leave the Islamic faith privately, seeking no publicity for his act and not undermining the state, he/she are not punished at all (Except in the day of Judgement).

do you support the death penalty for apostacy and adultery?

9:5 & 9:29

If you want to find English translation of the Quran go to www.islamicity.com /QuranSearch/ (no spaces)

Verse 9:5 is a continuation of a dialougue starting form 9:1 and carrying out throughout this chapter (al tauba: repentance), you should reach at least the first 6 verses of this chapter to understand the first part of the dialougue. (Idealy you should read the whole chapter to get the complete image),

In summarry the first 6 verses say: Fight those who have betrayed their treaty with you (In time of war) but do not fight those who kept their treaty)

in any case, Muslims are not gound by treaties with idolaters, and..
9:3 And a proclamation from Allah and His messenger to all men on the day of the Greater Pilgrimage that Allah is free from obligation to the idolaters, and (so is) His messenger. So, if ye repent, it will be better for you; but if ye are averse, then know that ye cannot escape Allah. Give tidings (O Muhammad) of a painful doom to those who disbelieve,

9:5 Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

9:29 Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.
which seems to make clear that "people of the book" who don't believe in Allah and don't follow all Quranic rules, and don't accept Islam are in DEEP doo doo!

please scroll down and click on 'show all' comments to view my response to verse 9:29 as it didnt fit underneath your comment for some reason.

the article please send me ur email (mine is mohamadyomar @hotmail.com) (no spaces) and I will present my thoughts to you as i have exeeded the limit on the number of comments on this page. :)

explained verse 9:5 refer back to my first reply to you (7th of June)

that Muslims are not bound by treaties with the Idolters, It means that God and his messengers have now fully conveyed the message of truth and now they have no obligation towards those who chose not to follow the truth as it has been made clear to them. (This verse was revealed towards the end of prophet Muhammed's life and prophethood)
Muslims are DEFINITELY allowed to have treaties with non-muslims (verse 8:61 couldn't be any clearer).
And those who hold no treaties with Muslims, God does not only order us to make peace with them but to have positive relations with them for mutual benefit (verse 60:8)

could they no longer have, other than that by formerly entered into treaty? Are you suggesting that Muslims are under no obligation "towards those who chose not to follow the truth" whatsoever (i.e. they can treat them as non-human)?
9:1 Freedom from obligation (is proclaimed) from Allah and His messenger toward those of the idolaters with whom ye made a treaty.

I urge you to read upto the 4rth verse in this chapter

9:4 But excepted shall be -from among those who ascribe divinity to aught beside God - [people] with whom you [O believers] have made a covenant and who thereafter have in no wise failed to fulfil their obligations towards you, and neither have aided anyone against you: observe, then, your covenant with them until the end of the term agreed with them. [5] Verily, God loves those who are conscious of Him.

there's a really narrowly defined group of non-believers whom Muslims were enjoined not to put to the sword "until the end of the term agreed." No doubt they were plenty busy with their other invasions!
Come on, all these old religions were brutal, xenophobic, and expansionist. That was the whole point of religion - survival and expansion of the tribe. That's why in most developed countries, belief in God is now spiralling downwards as it is no longer a neccessary survival trait.

The norm in Islamic relations with others is peace, there is a norrowly defined group of non-believer's who show brutality and hatred towards Muslims and are fought against accordingly. If you read all the verses that deal with non-believers (not just the ones that you see on Islamophobic sites) you will realise this.
Have you read the verses that I talked about earlier (60:8 -60:9 and 3:64) please read them first and not merely apply your preconcieved ideas about Islam.

to "people of the book." Hindus, Buddhists etc. presumably remain fair game.
And, surely the proof of the pudding is in the eating i.e. the massive Muslim conquests of early Islam.

reach = read (second line)

Sorry I forgot Apostates and adulterers are also on the Muslim death list.

Why do you think everyone who follows Islam is thinking about killing them self’s. You seem like a very narrow minded person, get out of your box and smell the coffee.

1. By the Glorious Morning Light,
2. And by the Night when it is still,-
3. Thy Guardian-Lord hath not forsaken thee, nor is He displeased.
4. And verily the Hereafter will be better for thee than the present.
5. And soon will thy Guardian-Lord give thee (that wherewith) thou shalt be well- pleased.
6. Did He not find thee an orphan and give thee shelter (and care)?
7. And He found thee wandering, and He gave thee guidance.
8. And He found thee in need, and made thee independent.
9. Therefore, treat not the orphan with harshness,
10. Nor repulse him who asks;
11. But the bounty of the Lord - rehearse and proclaim!

so you have no rights to kill other except god .this is to islamic terrorists. who blow up fellow people

hehehe funny paki rules i dnt fink so im a muslim but i dnt fink so

LISTEN THE DAY YOU LISTEN TO RABINICAL HYMS

yeah pple plzz

just wish that our kids grow up to be dedicated to our religion as this boy. You never see a christian boy priase the Lord in such a way, it either has to be Christmas or an other import even. Our religion is taken so much forgranted

Coming back to my first point, in this example verses (60:8 - 60:9) and 3:64 represent how Muslims should deal with non-Muslims in general terms, 9:29 is a special case as i mentioned above.

Please email me at mohamadyomar @hotmail.com (no spaces) If you have any more questions about Islam, It is usefull fro me too as I learn more about the Quran :)

it is called a reply, then hit the 'reply' link

umm.. internet junkies... wow.. look who's talkin dipshit.. ur an internet junkie and u dont even know... man ur pathetic... dont judge lest u be judged...