International
[This is part 2 of Dr Jacoby's opening statement, affirming the existence of God.]
The debate between international Christian speaker Douglas Jacoby and agnostic and skeptic Michael Shermer took place Saturday June 23, the highlight of the 2007 International Apologetics Conference, sponsored by the Apologetics Research Society. The debate topic: Does God Exist?
Dr. Shermer is one of the three or four most famous atheist / agnostic scholars in the world, author of 12 books and President of the Skeptic Society. He has held dozens of debates, appeared on Oprah, 20/20, Dateline, Tom Snyder, Larry King Live and The History Channel. Dr. Jacoby, director of the Athens Institute of Ministry, has spoken in hundreds of cities in some 80 nations.
This exciting event was held before a packed house, with an overflow crowd watching close circuit monitors outside the venue. Kedron Jones (Board member of ARS) was moderator and affable host. Shermer and Jacoby both bring their best analytical skills to this debate. The interchange is lively, with both speakers willing to concede points made by their opponent. You will benefit greatly from weighing the arguments put forth. Douglas' clear and incisive arguments for the existence of God are persuasive. He argues from cosmology (both its creation and its complexity). and the unmistakable fact that moral absolutes are part of reality. Shermer makes the case that religions are socially constructed, historically dependent, and that the faith you adhere to and the god you believe in depend largely on when in history and where in the world you were born.
The two-hour debate is lively, engaging and instructional. You can watch each speaker's opening, rebuttal, rebuttal summary, and conclusion here at YouTube. For the entire debate in one DVD, however, including the 40+ minute Q&A session, please visit www.douglasjacoby.com. The Skeptics Society website is www.skeptic.com.
To post further comments, please visit Jacoby's forum at www.jacobyblogs.com.
morality has evolved into human characteristics. you scratch my back, i'll scratch yours.
By johnnyp76 [Affiliate User] 1226848653 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removeprobability is dependent on frequency. until you tell me how many chances take place to start this improbable universe, then don't talk probability of universe starting. if a lottery ticket has a 1 in 1 million chance of winning, then that is deemed improbable. if i buy 3 million tickets, a win becomes probable. thus, to say the chance of such a universe starting is x, you need to know the frequency of that chance.
By johnnyp76 [Affiliate User] 1226253291 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveKeep up the good work Dag!
By theory1976 [Affiliate User] 1223369615 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveSurvival of the fittest does not explain morals; it explains preferences. Accordingly, no act is wrong in itself, but only because we have labeled it as such. Torturing a small child and caring for one carry no objective moral distinction in an atheistic world.
But can one honestly believe this? It is impossible to live in this world without making moral considerations; it's something we all simply take for granted.
Eloquent but ridiculous. Morals have come into being because it would be inconvenient for a living race to be made out of a bunch of creatures that liked to run around killing each other all the time. The whole race would soon become extinct. Thusly, survival of the fittest explains the existence of morals.
Besides, since the existence of a Universe is such an unlikely occurrence, shouldn't the God creating it, logically, be even more unlikely that his creation?
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