Amazing, Strange And Unbelievable. Can You Figure This Out?

HE DOES THE MATH ALL WRONG TO CONFUSE YOU. IT'S SIMPLE THE ROOM COST $27 ($25 PLUS $2 THE BELL HOP KEPT) THAT LEAVES $3 TO BE DIVIDED. DEEDEEDEE

They never got the $2 back, so it doesn't enter into the equation - just the $3 (room=$25 $3 = $28, not $27). Nothing really amazing about that.

Make sure to have the teller actually COUNT your change back to you, folks!

in the last week on this site. It is a funny joke, but hardly unbelieveable. The answer is quite simple, but I will leave it to those to figure it out. It is a very entertaining joke and story, and I tell it myself.

This riddle is actually older tan I am

There isnt any money missing... The price of the room is $25 each one of the three men have $1 a piece and the belhop has $2 all totaling $30. There's no money missing! It's Great! I love brain teasers!

I used to get people on this one all the time, but the presentation you put together was very entertaining.

-27+2=-25 not 27+2=29, cool trick though Billy Bob Thornton.

the moral of the story is the bell hop screwed them outta 2 bucks id have his job for that >:(!

You people are dumber than you think ... Its true that 25 3 2 is 30$. But this is not the point.

If everyone pays 10$ and gets one back, than everyone of them have payed 9$.

10$ - 1$ is 9$ and 3 × 9$ is 27 ... the rest figure it out yourself.

I pass, 5 stars for messing my head right up!!! what are you all talking about in your comments you've all lost me completely, well done.

30-5= 25 THEREFORE EACH MAN GETS BACK 8.33. THE BELL HOP TAKES 2 AND CONSEQUENTLY RIPS OFF THE 3 GUESTS. ONE PENNY LEFT OVER FALLS ON THE FLOOR. THE MAID AS USUAL GETS F--KED!

If it was up yer ass you'd know where it was.

billhop is one of the three men, he ended up with 2 dollars,

eyi malmış daha izlemedim ama neyseeeeeeeeeeee

thats allllllllll dumm now thats all

if the manager gave the bellhop back $5 to give to the men then the room cost $25 + $3 the bellhop gave them back. thats $28. the other $2 was in the bellhops pocket. so, $25 for the room+$3 back + $2 the bellhop has is $30. doed this guy think were dumb???????????

we must all be stupid......well I GUESS THE YANKEE DOODLES ARE!!!!

It's an old one, and it would be easy to explain, but for the yanks it would be difficult to comprehend.
I've come to the conclusion the yankees are ALL daft

1st u take 5 dollars away from the 30 due to the manager handin over 5 dollars then that leaves the tourist still wantin there 3 dollars so he gives them a dollar each so that each 25+3 = 28 dollars.. then on top of it the man still has 2dollars left over in which he keeps

What tricks u is that when u minus 3 dollars u think its correct because the way it sounds but infact u should be addin the 3 dollars onto the 25 because u r takin away from the total sum not the sum of the tourist inwhich paid.

there is a lil trick in the question i figure the math in 2 seconds it took me a little longer to find the trick in the question, see he says each man paid 9 dollars and that = 27 wich is true and then says the bellhop has 2 dollars in his pocket so wheres the last dollar, heres the thing they paid 25 for the room and then the bellhop took 2 that comes to 27 to that u add the 3 dolars the mens got back and u get 30,what the bell hop took is in the 27 dollars easy!!

Like countin backwards on ur fingers 10.9.8.7.6...

First Each man paid 9 dollars.... thats 27 dollars.
Each man still has 1 dollar... thats 3 dollars.

27 + 3 = 30 ... its that simple.

And the bellhop takes 2 of the dollars the men spend. 2

27 - 2 = 25...

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3 man paid $30 but they are suppose to pay $25 so bell kept took $5 kept $2 and gave three man three $3 back.

$25 $2 $3=$30

There is no missing dollar.

Ok - I S**k at math, but even I could figure this out before the video was over. That is truly sad, indeed.

he makes you add the $2 dollars but your supposed to subtract it. When you do that it equals $25. Simple.

If they paid 30 dollars and got 5 dollars off then they paid only 25 dollars. So 25 dollars plus the 3 they got back and the 2 the bell boy kept equals 30. SO theres no missing dollar

Actual room cost $25:3=8.3333/each man not $9.
$5 refund just give it to me.

Actual room cost $25:3=$9.3333e each man. $5 refund just give it to me.

He is messing with you.

I wasn't confused by the problem. I was just wondering what's the point. The bellhop gives them each a dollar (3 dollars). I was thinking why in the world is he adding 2 dollars back into the whole when he is supposed to subtract it to 25. lol

He's trying to make something interesting by the firken video he made.

trick. People get so confused with the right words said that they strike a blank. It is very simple. You cant take the 3 men individually you will have to take them as one and then you will get the answer within second. 3 men paid $30 the man took $25 for the room. $2 for himself and gave $3 back to the 3 men. And that = $30!

How many fingers do you have? 10
Really! (Counting backwards on your fingers) 10, 9, 8, 7, 6 plus 5 on the other hand is 11!!!!

the motel: 25$
the men: 3$
the billhop: 2$

that goes to 30$....no reason to be thinking of this!

if you have although the men paid $9 each that is what paid although however if the ball hop hadnt taken The $2 the would and divided it correctly they would have paid $8.33* eg: 10x3 = 30, 30-5 = 25, 25div3 = 8.33*

so the trick is in the riddle although the men thought they paid $9 they actually got ripped off how were they supposed to know they were only to pay $8.33*

think about it, each room now costs 25€, the guy gives 3€ back to each, that doesnt mean they have 9€ per room, it means each room now costs 25€ divided by 3, wich = to 8.33(3) per person, now he gave 3€ back to each, so it makes 8.33(3) + 1 and then multiple it by 3, wich = to 28 [9.33(3) x3] plus the 2 the other guy kept makes 30... blah ^^

Technically they didn't pay $9 each...they really paid $25 so the guy gave back $3 and kept two...25 3 2= $30....right? How was that hard.....?

this is a neat trick, but its pretty old... most people have already heard this. It was asked in my highschool calc class and there were only like 3 people who didnt figure it out... so i dont know about the 97% thing....

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Anybody remember order of operations from math class? You can't arbitrarily choose what order you do your math in. His math is flawed in the "finale".

The room cost $25.00
The Bell Hop keeps $2.00
Thats a total room cost of $27.oo (divide it 3 way and each man has payed $9.00 ea.) That left $1.00 ea. for each of the three men. Which accounts for the whole original $30.00
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YOU GOT IT ALL WRONG!!!
HERE IT IS...
3 MAN = MOTEL ROOM IS 30.
$10 EACH TO MAKE $30
REAL PRIZE IT $25
SO CHANGE IS $5
$2 FOR THE BELL HOP
THE REMAINING $3 IS DISTRIBUTED A DOLLAR EACH
SO, IF THEY GOT BACK $1 EACH, THEN THEY PAID $9 EACH. 9X3=27 (25 ROOM + 2 FOR BELL HOP) THEN THE $3 CHANGE. PROBLEM SOLVED!

Its a scam

25+3=28

30-28=2

bellhop has 2 dollars

yeah just think about this for a minute he "TRICKS" you into thinking that they paid $27 for the room... they paid $25 for the room, but the bell hop kept $2 so he kept the two and then gave them $3 back one a piece... so $25(for room)+$2(bell hop kept it)+$3($1 for each of the guys)=$30

when the bellhop gives them 5 dollars back, that means they paied 25 dollars all togther. 3 dollars given to them is not 27,(dumbass) it is 28. then the other 2 dollars

the $2 in the bellhop's pocket shouldn't get added to $27, it should get subtracted, because it's part of the $5 given back. the story-teller's misleading statements make this one unsolvable

But i'm pretty sure half the people who commented on this sayin, *yawn* that was easy actually went to the website to find out.
Also i love the way that loads of them got it wrong when boasting. XD

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Everybody figured this out in our house even my 12 year old son who flunked math last year.

Silly

ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS HERE WHAT HE SAY'S

Here's the fault in the logic. He asks what happened to the extra dollar missing from the $30, but the number 30 is no longer a part of the equation when when the amount they paid now adds up to $27. Simple.

It looked like the starting Foreigner music video...what did the earth and stars have anything to do with the three men at the beginning? Not a mystery..lol..but the woman biting her finger got my attention..good job!

the original mistake is not taking the bellhops honesty into the question. There was no mistake, he pocketed 5 dollars of the original 30, so now he has 5+2=7, the men have a dollar each so 3+7=10, plus the 25 dollars for the room makes 35$ and only 30 dollars being initially exchanged so there is a dicrepency of 5$ and the hotels refund of 5$ means the hotel is down $10 so now we have the current finacial statues of the parties involved. the bellhop is +7, the guests are +3 and the hotel are +15 which all adds up to $25. so where is the 5$

The three men paid 10 dollars each.
10 x 3 = 30 dollars
so let's say the shopkeeper now has 30 dollars, he takes away 5, and now he has 25.
3 of those 5 dollars, goes to the men, and now there's 28 dollars, we know where are. The last two dollars he kept, so he ends up with 25 2 = 27, and the last three, the men have.

I can't believe out of 197 people, none of you has gotten this. That is much less than 3%. I got it after thinking about it for about 1 minute, and I am a male. Here's the answer:

They paid $25 dollars for the room instead of $30. $25/3 = $8.33 paid by each of the men (not $9 each). ($8.33 +$1.00)*3 = $28.00 + $2 in bellhops pocket = $30 total given to manager before the mistake was corrected.

It's pretty funny how he tries to throw people off by saying "no tricks", which is completely false when he is purposely being an idiot when trying to count up to 30 instead of counting down to 25.

he confused you by saying , "each man now paying 9 dollar" which is WRONG. each man paid more than 9 dollar since it should include the 2 dollar which is in that other dude's pocket

13 years of age and got it instantly... all he did was the math wrong

bad math thats all its about

noobest question... the answer no1 have the dolar...

y?

27 total
u need 3 dollars to make 30 dollars
he added the 2 dollar into the 27 dollars
all u need to do is complete the 3 dollar to make 30 dollars if u dont understand this 1 ur noober than him...

WOW if you can't figure this out you're kinda dumb... room costs 25
the bellhop gives BACK 1 dollar to each man and keeps 2 for himself
so... 25 3 = 28 NOT 27
28 2 = 30
OMG it's crazy or something!

The music obliterated whatever it was you were saying. I tried turning up the volumen but still couldn't make it out -- just did some damage to my eardrums. Next time, try making the music softer than the narration. Or maybe, try it without any musis at all!

Yup, the IRS and the American government took it!

This is one of those pretentious things that some "math" guys like to do. It's very simple to figure out, but the condescending way he's talking thru the whole thing turns my stomach...

This is about persuasion, a car salesman told me this and some other ways of manipulating thinking...imagine that. the basic trick to this is that you are trying to get it all to add up to 30 dollars. because we are taught to add things up. The true anwer is -- that if you SUBTRACT the 2 dollars from the 27 which the men paid, you will get 25, which is what they paid for the room.

The problem people are making here is NOT following the money. Yes, the guys get $1 dollar each back. So in effect they did pay $9 dollars each. But they DO NOT HAVE nine dollars each, because they already paid $10 each. The one holding the bulk of the money is the HOTEL and NOT the men. The men have $1 dollar each = $3 dollars, the bellboy has $2 dollars, and the Hotel has $25 dollars.

3 2 25 = 30

THERE IS NO MISSING DOLLAR PEOPLE!!!!

Think.

F**king gay

One doesn't add the 2 the bellboy kept, one subtracts it. Just as you subtracted the 3 the renters got back from 30 to get 27, you subtract the 2 from 27 to get 25 which is what the room costs.

There is no "missing buck".

I love this story and have told it for years to friends. Drives some dang near crazy.....

It's very much like asking:

If there is an integer between the number 2 and 3, is it even or odd?

Yeah, sure, if you add 27 to 2, you'd conjure up a 29, but what does it represent? It only makes sense to subtract 2 from 27, equals 25, which is what the manager receives.

ok, when they paid 30 dollars, they each paid 10, when they were to get 5 dollars back, they should have been paying 25. so give them their 3 dollars back that the bell hop does, but when you do, your not trying to find how to get to 30 anymore, your trying to find how to get to 25. 9x3= 27 27-2(the bell hops 2 dollars) equals 25. easy.

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this is so f%

If it's so easy,why so many comments?

i put it in my pocket!

that was easy,....., ha, I am in 1%...lol

Well, if only 3% of the people got it, I assume you stray from special ed kids and go to regular people.

i got it right.

Guys I´ll tell you the answer it´s as simple as he´s using multiplication instead of adding.
that´s where the fault lies.
3*9=27 . the bell keeps 2 that´s 29 we´re missing 1 $

Here´s how you do it!
30-5=25
he gives each guy 3$
25+3=28
he keeps 2$
28+2=30$

The wrong lies in mixing + and *
they pay 30 $

they ask 25 and you give them 27 the rest is in mgr pocket ... try somthin else smarter

See it's a trick. The bellhop keeping the $2 means that it is part of the cost of the room. It shouldn't be added to the $9 x 3 = $27. Because the $2 is included in the 27 dollars ie: $25+$2 = $27. Instead you should add $3 to $27 equaling $30, because this is the amount that isn't actually part of the cost!

hay see the fact is they payed $10 each where soposed to get $5 back, bell hop took $2. so each man got $1, witch =$3 so 30-5=25 now they were soposed to get 5 back, so 25+5=30, all money is aconted for, bellhop toke 2 leaving the men w/3 overall, stell adding up 2 $5 out of the 30, therfor there isnt 1 cent missing. booyah,see wemen dont have all the branes.

I worked it out before he even said "Where's the other dollar".

Because in mine, 100% of those I've told this to, including myself when I heard it, have resolved it with not so much trouble...

IT IS NOT AMAZING. i FUIGURED IT OUT AND I AM A MORAN. BOOOOO LEADING PEOPLE ON THE WRONG TRACK IS SOOOOOO STRANGE AND UNBELIEVABLE. EAT A CORK!

Boys spend last 3 dollars in bar.Thay take 3 nice young girls for f... and the rest of 2 $ they give to barmen for lots of beers

either way you look at the equation it works out this guy has way too much time on his hands

1972? This ones been on the go since 1772!

You dont add the 2 dollars to 27....if they all paid 9 dollars thats 27...25 for room two extra dollars for the bell boy, they already got 3 dollars back.

how stupid this vid is

2 men walk into the same motel. They buy a $20 room. The man at the counter again realizes that it was $5 cheaper.
He gives $5 to the bellhop.
The bellhop thinks "I got away with larceny once, I'll do it again."
He gives 1$ back to each man. That means, they each payed $9, plus the $3 dollars in the bellhop's pocket!
9+9+3 = 21!
There's the missign dollar.

i dont have that dollar i wasnt even there......

uhm... why is this amazing? there isn't $30, there's $35. The men paid $30 and the man had $5. So he put $2 in his pocket and gave them $3, it all adds up to 35...

I would think everyone would do the math along with him and notice immediately when he botches the calculation. 1 Star.

3x9 is 27 then you minus the 2 not add it.. which is 25. you cant add 2 when youre taking out the 3. i think i just confused myself, but im sure thats right. haha

not amazing at all, very stupid and waste of space. Please stop putting videos like this.

The 2 was supposed to be subtracted. Not added to the equation.

you guys are so stupid its easy! ok get this..--the ppl paid 30$ and they couldnt divde 5$ to three men so the bellhop kept 2$ and they each got back 1$ = 3$ and then they had paid 25$ and
25$+2$+3$=30$!!!!

Ok first off they payed 25 dollars point blank so leave the 25 dollars to the hotel!!! The guy throws us off by saying 9x3=27 +2=29 saying that each man payed 9 dollars but in all accuality they only really payed 25 dollars in the first place making each pay 8.33 and getting 5 back the boy kept 2 dollars so 8.33x3=25(hotel) +2 (boy's keep) +3 (what was given back)=30 smackarooes!!! ha!ha!ha! so there!!!

30= 10 x 3
27= 9 x 3
25= 8.334 x 3

you droped the remaining .33 from the each person, common error im guessing back in early computing if you didnt proof your code.
got anything hard?

He came up with that one

I figuredit out the first time....
Room actuallycost $25.00 gave each person back 1$
25 1 1 1 equals 28$ 25...26...27...28 than he kept 2 in his pocket...29 30! ta da that wassooo dumb and easy didnt any buddy everyhear of counting the change back? im sure everyone has prolly given the wronge change dumbdumbs

This video did not come to standards

Each man paid $9. This is for the room PLUS the tip for the bell boy.

Room $25
Tip $2

$25 $2=$27.

they all pay 9$ for the room not 8.(3) you stupid people

9*3=27
27+3=30

if you didnt play the backround music i may be able to hear what is said the audio quilty S**ks you stupit ass.. cant you figure out not to play backround music... redo the video ass hole

i'm not going to lie... it acctually got me for a second but once i stopped and did the math then i got it...

i like it.

its up your ass asshole i cant beleive i just watched this stupid S**t i just waisted 2 minutes 31 seconds of my life !!!!

he adds it up wrong at the end.
3 men,$10 each. =$30
billhop,$2 =$28
3 men, $3 =$25
he must hav only ever asked 5 year olds

They paid $30 in total, $5 was extra, so remaining $25 has to be divided between them, which is $8.3333, either one of them received an extra $1 or each been paid 0.33333 cent. by saying that they each paid $9 he tries to hid 0.333333 cent payment.

the man did`t pay 9 dollars each ,think do the math with in apiece of paper dont just multuply

Take it back the other way... if the 3 men had to pay $25 each then it works out at 8.333333
When the guy telling the story sais they each get $1 he sais the men pay 9$ not $9.33 So thats were the other doller went 9.33 x 3 = 28 + the 2$ bell hopt kept... simple

Every guy of the three guys paid 9 (including the bellhop tip) = 27$.
That means that every guy paid 8.333333333333333333 and something for the room +0.66666666666666667 and someting for the bellhop.
He tells you that each guy paid 9$ * 3 =27 to get you confused.

this riddle is based on a lie,
i could figure some out to if you want

Why does your equation ADD the two dollars two the twenty-seven that the men paid? The two dollars SUBTRACTED from the twenty-seven equals the net price of the room. There's no reason to try and add-up any numbers to equal thirty because that is not the NET amount paid by the men. The men paid 3 X 9 each or $27. Twenty five went to the hotelier and two to the bell-hop. End of story.

i've wasted 2:30 mins of my life

ur suppse to subtract $2 for the bellhop and get $25, not add and get $29

i cant freakn believe that only 3% out of 97% figured that out
wth
lol ok they get five dollars back (5) the bellhop puts 2 dollars in his pocket and gives 3 dollars back
5 3 2= 10
there you go 30 dollars
i'm only 13 and i figured that out

I've heard this before. There isnt any money missing. The last part was a play of words. If they did pay 9 dollars each, then 2 would go to the bellhop since the room is only $25.

How are you going to be able to state that they paid 9 dollars each, the guys gives them 3 dollars because he kept 2 dollars , which means a total purchase of the room for 28 dollars? then you say well 28 divided by 3 isn't 9 but 9.3333 . Think about this one , 2 x2 equals 4 right , well whats 3 dollars x 3 dollars = ?

no m not telling this video to others.coz its so simple.a 2nd grader can answer.the room only cost $25,so the billhop must return $5.but he kept $2 and returned $3 instead. ($1 to each men).

it don't matter about the extra dollar. the room cost $25 plus the one dollar each man got equals $28 plus the $2 the bell hop got equals 30.

25 for the room +3 they got back =28+2=30 easy

If you look at the picture of the dollar, the part of where the night manager bit comes up, at 1:10 Into the video, if you look at the number serial on the dollar!

it says, L 337

:D

they spent $25 for the room and $2 for the bellboy
total amount is $27, each person has to pay $9. Each person gave $10 - $1 for the change.
In math equation: 27 / 3 = 10 - 1
9 = 9
comprende?

That guy with the longest hard white nose blocking blonde hair is the stupidest among them! Poor that bell boy... only got $2 from the three stupid dumbass ahahahaaa.... He should get $1

Not worth it dude.... nice try. We play this question during drunk and everybody can answer it correctly. Do you even have the right answer? Better think again hehehe.....

30 ok
30-5=25 which the room should cos so
the guy wnated to giv them the 5 back "forget the 9 part its just to confuse u"
the really pay 9.33 :P not 9 but stay focused
5-2 for the guy leaves 3
3+ the 25 = 28! not 20 which explains 30-2 for they guyi.e they paid 28 for the room not 27 not 9x3 but 9.33x3= ruffly 28 cause u can't devide 28 by three

It is quite simple, the problem is how it is told. You can't logically say they spent $27 total and then add the $2. They spent $27 and each one got a $1 back. Play it out with 30 pennies on your table and you will see the "magic" is in the wording and that there is no missing $1.

Very well done though, 5 stars. I used to tell this years ago and I am amazed at how some of the most intelligent people I told get so confused.

The answer on the webpage doesn't account for the manner in which it's described in the video, it uses simple math. Clearly there is no extra dollar, however 9X3=27 plus 2 =29. ?? That line of math doesn't equate.

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you do the maths all wrong

$25 ROOM
$3 REFUND
$2 BELLHOP
$30 TOTAL

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28/3 = 9.33333333
9*3 = 27
0.3333333333*3 = 0.999999999999 =1
27+1=28

Order of operation?

3 time 9 = 27 + the 3 they got back =30

30-5+2=27 one dollar for each fogot, i bet you those fogot had a lot of fun banging each other.

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It went to the cheap hoe that they had a foursome gang bang!!!

i doubt 97% of the people didnt get it. dude, im a 14-year old kid and i figured it out right after the video ended.

$1 dll are tips 4 d guy

the men payd 10 each...thats 30,ok. now, dont multiply by the dollars they get back but more like this...( 9 each person...1dollar back to each...=10 each... now multiply 10 by how many people there were...10*3=30)...if im wrong please tell me...(in a good way...i dont want people disrespecting me..)

you need consuntration

firts, the stupid music doesnt let me stay in the game but
30$ for the room ok
the 1 that they did give to the 3 guys is acctuallu worth 25 so
they give back 5$ to the 3 guys but 2 are for the the the well i dont know how to say it but the other guy that works at the motel now 30-5=25 so 25 + 2+ 1+1+1= 30 so where is the other $? up your ass man dont get confused with the 9 S**t

30 $ - 2$ (for the man) = 28 $ - 3$ (for each man in the room) = 25 (the cost of the room)
the story is confusing
the room was 8,(3) for each 25/3= 8,(3)
they never paid 9 $ each
adn by the way, I'm a woman :))

3 MEN... 3 DOLLARS... HE GIVES A DOLLAR TO HIMSELF!

Who cares, not like you can get much with a dollar now days anyways :)

30 dollars hotel charge plus 2 dollars tips = 32 dollars (total), now that they got 5 dollars back which is 32 - 5 = 27 dollars.

the answer is that when u multiply the answer comes out differently because it is multyplying by an odd number and to the idiot that think you multyply by 9.33 where the f**k did u go to school 10-1=9 dumb f**k
there is no actual answer its just a mathamatical thing thats all