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To avoid being captured this pilot blows himself up with a hand grenade.
being captured was the ultimate loss of honor, it was not because he feared what the americans would do to him
war is the worst thing on our earth
One's fun is another's hell.
About wars:
Wars will be wars. The one who carries a bigger stick tends to be the 'peace' keeper, I'll give you that. 'We' ended the war isn't the whole story either. But that's history now. We can all but learn from it.
I am sure the US had plenty of them back then. Or maybe they used to send him to some thirld world country to be tourtured.
By Tiwana 1139084013 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveDo you not know anything about history? If captured he would have been sent to a POW camp! Not like quantanimo etc
POW camps were totally lopsided for the germans as opposed to the japanese. Germans often lived a very comfortable stay during the war getting fed better meals then our own prisoners were getting.... On the other hand, japanese POWS wernt treated as well... Just look at what we did with Japanese AMERICANS.
By DUMA 1144132149 Reply Spam [+2] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removedude, you sure have a firm grasp on the obvious...
By isicic 1149527123 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveI do not like what the japanese did to other country's during WW2 (Grandpa fought the Japanese in Nanking before it was overrun.). But I do respect that era of japanese soldiers, they lived and died with honor.
By DUMA 1144132375 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveI would be more honored to be rescued and live to see this clip than to be dead !
By A.James 1147465907 Reply Spam [+1] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveDid anyone else notice that the soldier shot the pilot after the grenade went off?
By leprous maw 1243755006 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removeto take ones own life. He would be mocked by his fellow countrymen when he returns from being a P.O.W after the war. This is why he killed himself. Shame
By toryboy 1164784816 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveThings that are done during wars are always open to debate, collateral damage, the acceptance of it and the amount of innocents that are deemed acceptable to facilitate an objective.
Now if you saw bin laden enter a building i assume you would be up for a reward if you passed on that info to the relevant authorities and the building was taken out, regardless of casualties.
Likewise if you yourself torched that building even if it was full of children (conscience aside) would you be rewarded.
Could you drive someone down and claim it was your belief that that person was bin laden,even if it turns out to be some old grand dad, are you being patriotic?
You tell me.
stupid people lissen to them
By drfox 1149339144 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveDefinition of dedication, have to give the little bastards that. Should well remember what a MOTIVATED enemy can do.
By C.M. Wolf 1148432664 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Remove...
By Pahar`Cu`Pai 1141602114 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Remove ON ONE HAND JAPAN WAS AN AGGRESSOR COUNTRY AT THAT TIME. THEY INVADED EAST ASIA. THEY WERE ALLY OF NAZI GERMANY.
ON OTHER HAND, U.S.GOVERNMENT IN ORDER TO END THE WAR COULD BOMB BIG MILITARY OBJECT OF JAPAN INSTEAD OF CIVILIAN CITY.
IN CONCLUSION I WOULD SAY THAT BOTH SIDES HAS ITS OWN TRUTHS AND LIES. SO IN FUTURE, WE HAVE TO PREVENT SUCH SITUATIONS
He definately made the world a better place!!
By jvp333 1138715072 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveIf the US did have an invasion, their targets would not be Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the two cities were literally "testing sites" for "the bomb" because the US wanted to test the bomb's effect on heavily populated areas and the US did not want to waste soldiers in an invasion. However, the aftermaths of the bomb were not really accounted for since this was the earliest experimentations on nuclear weapons and the areas in which the bombs exploded caused the ground to not be able to have any vegation due to raditation for several years.
BTW I totally agree with avgjoe, people need to distinguish between "government" and "country"
There are many papers on the effects of these two bombs...So called account on the deaths and distruction are a known fact...All you have to do is go to a library and you can find everything you want to know
By Tlvdatsi 1142424943 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveNuclear Fusion also. Just think what that would have been like.
By drfox 1149339422 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveYes true the aftermaths of those nuclear attacks on Japan were severe and that information regarding the aftermaths could easily be found... I never said anything about lack of evidence of the harmful effects of atomic weapons... I SAID At the time. There was little to no knowledge on radioactivity and genetic mutations due to such phenomena.. THEREFORE IT WAS NOT ACCOUNTED FOR. PLEASE LEARN TO READ.
P.S. There is a huge difference between "accounted for" and "accounts on", please learn to read before commenting.
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The people make up the country, the people ELECT the government to speak for the people of the country therefore ........... in a way, the people are the government in a round about way. Also, know matter what the government elected by the people doe's, half the people won't like it and if they go the other way, the other half won't like it so they know they can't please everyone so they please themself's until their term is up or they get kicked out of office. Remember, its our government, by the people, for the people, of the people.At least that's what they say. Just something to think about.
By canman 1138751894 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removethanks mazda for getting it. the united states did in fact invade japan, iwo jima and okinawa. we conquered iwo jima. thats why we were able to run successful bombing campaigns in the first place. in fact, i would also say that we killed an estimated 120,000 people with tokyo fire bomb runs just before the hiroshima bomb. the decision was made not to bomb tokyo, however probably any city in japan could have fell.
By avgjoe 1138727250 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removeouch that would hurt eh
By voxer 1138653982 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removefunny how a country who was the only one ever to nuke another country not once but twice always has to justify itself ...ye havent come very far sadly
By kradrider 1138565877 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveThey started it we finished it period!!!!! Why don't you people who are so quick to put us down ever talk about the atrocity's committed by Japan and Germany that killed a million time's more people than the bomb's dropped on Japan. Why..... because its easyer to spread bullshit than to tell the truth and the truth is harder for you to except because you are so damn jealous of us. You probably don't have the ball's to admit that if if was not for the USA you would all be speaking German and have a swastika tattooed on your ass. You were not there and you don't know what the people went through to fight a suicidal Japanese army. You have no clue and you don't have the right to judge.
By canman 1138577693 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removehitler was no less than the most evil individual who ever lived. the only thing i regret about hitler is that he was too much of a pussy to face defeat like his cronnies at the nuremberg trial. the crimes against humanity that the japanese are responsible for probably made them deserve the bomb. joeyboy before you put words in my mouth, just because i said they deserve the bomb doesnt mean i think they should have got the bomb. i have the balls (id still have the balls if i didnt) to admin if it werent for alot of nations we would all be under nazi rule, im not stupid enough to think they would force everyone to learn german, because its too costly and there wouldnt really serve a purpose for having slaves learn your language. if not for the french we would still be under british rule, dont forget to thank those funny cigarette smoking, beret wearing individuals. i have no problem judging those other evil people who have committed what i see as immoral acts of bloodthirst. id hate to be either of the sides on judgement day. its wrong no matter who does it.
By avgjoe 1138727854 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removethan get the crap beat out of me in detainment
By hoosteady 1138562068 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveWhat people will do when brought up in a culture that stresses 'honor' over rights of the individual. He probably killed himself because he thought we were going to do to -him- what -he- would've done to -us- under reverse circumstances!
By lazur 1138561209 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removeand that what happened with the nazi german POW.
By wolfheart_2001 1138640198 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveSurrender just wasnt in their vocabulary.
By roady43 1138554293 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveWhat was so offensive about his commment, he just told the truth. Geeeez people.
By canman 1138582612 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removeany excuse to try and justify the bomb...
By copyright 1138561033 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveLook up some history about the Japenese and their treatment of American (and other) prisoners during the Pacific Assault in WWII. Or watch the History channel...
By wirehead 1138593071 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveJust an excuse for sentient life cause your intelligence is non existent.go crawl back into the hole you came from.
By thebeancounter42 1138744354 Reply Spam [-1] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveGOOD POINT!
By RAREARTH 1138556363 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveWell, you have a good point, yet, it wasnt the reason...
By vanowm 1138560756 Reply Spam [-1] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removefunny how a country who was the only one ever to nuke another country has to always justify itself ..says alot for its people
By kradrider 1138565787 Reply Spam [-2] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveWe don't have to justify anything, we didn't start the war, we ended it.
By canman 1138582939 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveThis sux,and not fair play... :(
By Johny8 1149246796 Reply Spam [-1] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveNever surrender is the title... rofl... when u blow urself up you're quitting, you're not going to heaven or hell, youll just stick between those 2 since you've created your own death! We nuked them they blew up themselves.. they allied with germany, they massacred millions of chinese, their theory was changed to fascist, if youve seen what they did.. you would not be sorry for this piece of crap kamikaze!
By Great ME 1144407202 Reply Spam [-1] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveFlush ........it and get over it
By haters 1138845347 Reply Spam [-1] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveDropping the atomic bomb not only saved hundreds of thousands of lives of US marines who would have had to invade the island of japan but also saved teh lives of hundreds of thousands more japanese soldiers who would have died in the fight for their mainland. There were many casualties lost but you have to compaire the oppurtunity cost, 200,000 casualties from the atomic bombs dropped without loss of american life in a fight we didnt start, or 500,000 american troops killed by suicidal extremist japanese warriors inflicting high casualties on themselves and america. They made the right decision. I had a friend named Katsua who was a foreign exchange student and I talked to him about it, he spoke little english and I asked him what the japanese thought about the war, and all he said was "We think it as, my bad, our fault, we sorry"
By BoulderBoy 1138583943 Reply Spam [-1] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removenow you say killing the civilians women and children is ok??!!!!!!!
i have nothing to say but you are american
Damn it - don't lump all Americans in with people like this! The overwhelming majority of us honestly care about what happens to innocent people. It is unfortunate that only the idiots who scream hate get heard.
By Printerman 1138652117 Reply Spam [+1] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removeits also a reply to your statement. you are bigoted in that you apparently call people americans to insult them. in american we have women and children too. you are contradicting yourself and you are just as bad as the guy above.
By avgjoe 1138658283 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removethe difference in the dropping of the bombs was that it was on civilians. a soldiers job is to fight and in doing so he/she knows that they might have to pay the ultimate price. pearl harbor was a military base. hiroshima and nagasaki were towns full of civilians.
By avgjoe 1138605858 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveEvery MAN, WOMEN,AND CHILD would have been ordered to fight to the death. Some of you people really need to learn about the Japanese culture of that time before you make a comment about something you know nothing about. It was all about honor and loosing face which was all important. You did not disgrace yourself or your family and most important of all the emperor by surrendering. Had we invaded and not dropped the bomb the blood bath whould have been beyond discription
By canman 1138689907 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removedeja vu...Why do people think that if we invaded instead of dropped "the bomb" that there would be no innocent lives lost. Dont you think that if we invaded Japan that there'd still be a great deal of collateral damage? I mean look at todays war with guided weaponry in populated areas...people still die. Now imagine that with unguided weapons in extremely dense areas like tokyo.
By Dirk77 1138639530 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removecollateral damage by definition is the unintentional harm to people or places. i emphasize "unintentional". with that being said, i would disagree with your comment. all the death caused by those bombs was intentional. they knew there would be great civilian casaulties. the problem is your idea of what collateral damage is. you think its anytime a civilian is killed. its not collateral damage when your target is almost 95% civilian (thats taken from just about all my research on this subject, which is quite extensive). im not someone who thinks war is always a bad thing. sometimes war is needed, but at least have the courage to fight the soldiers and not the women and children. if you decide its better to fight the women and children at least have the courage to let them defend themselves. im a proud American. i will support my country, but not a government that does that. before you debate that, review what "collateral damage" is and also learn to distinguish "government" and "country".
By avgjoe 1138658069 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveYea right, You were not even born yet and you don't have any idea what your talking about. If you were on the Island's fighting them you would understand why. But since you were not and have no clue of what was, your comment is lame.Had you been there and seen what the Japanese did to WOMEN AND CHILDREN by the thousands all over Asia and the South Pacific you would have a whole different outlook but its easyer to just run down you own country. You have no idea of what you speak. From someone who was there.
By canman 1138688880 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removei never said i was there, i realize i wasnt even born yet. in fact, in order for me to have fought in that war id have to be at least 79 years old (congrats to you for making it that far in life and thanks for your service in that war). you also cannot distinguish "country" from "government". i never ran down my country, i ran down my government. i have this way of explaining the difference to kids, ill try this with you. everyone in our nation is part of our country, not everyone in our nation is part of our government. to address the part about not knowing what something is like because someone wasnt there is asinine. there are accounts of what took place in almost every battle in any library in the country (notice how i didnt say government, there is a difference). if you justify killing japanese women and children by what they did to japanese women and children, you are no better than those you seek to destroy. you speak as if you were president trumann giving the go ahead to drop the bomb. for that i call you a coward (i still appreciate your service to our country and our government, even though i dont support the latter).
By avgjoe 1138726928 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveYou know not what you speak. And to call me a coward for being in favor of the bomb prove's you still don't know. I fought on Iwo Jima and Okinawa and to think you could know what it was like by going to the library is really asinine. There is no book you could read that could make you understand the horror of that war. You can read it but you can't feel it smell it or taste it. The book is just word's not the real war. EVERY person in Japan would have been ordered to fight to the death. The blood bath would have been unspeakable if we would have had to launch an attack on mainland Japan. I fought for your right to have your own opinion and speak it, therefore, i respect your opinion, disagree, but respect it and would fight again for you to keep that right and I don't mean to offend you. Just someone who was there and saw first hand. Just ask any vet that was there.
By canman 1138749774 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removeyou fought because you got paid to fight. you did not have my opinion in mind when you went there. there was never any thought of japan invading our country. my civil liberty was never in danger, you were not protecting my right to have an opinion. in fact even without civil liberty i can have an opinion, i can also speak it. if youre going to use that 'fight for your rights' cliche, use it right. say 'i fought for your right not to be persecuted by a government for <insert choice of civil libert here>'. i just find it very difficult to believe im debating with a 79+ year old man. what division were you in?
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