Silent Drill

Mobius 1, you couldn't shine their shoes punk.

skeebo, i couldn't have said it better myself

He is just pissed because he knows deep inside he doesn't have what it takes to be a marine. so instead of complimenting their ability he mocks it to make himself feel better.

That was the best drill ive seen!! Unlike being an idiot, this takes skill and a whole lot of dicipline and practice!!!

my tax dollars are spent to teach guys to twirl rifles. Want to impress me? Teach them to find Osama...

to find Osama? what the hell are you talking about, we all pay taxes idiot! even military people! twirl these nuts in your mouth! lol

the marines are so cool

these drills are made to give the marine extra discipline and a cool mind in face of danger (I bet the knifes are real), which gives them an andvantage during combat

I "twirled a rifle" a bit myself in the USAF on a base honor guard drill team. We weren't as good as those guys, but we had real jobs to do all day. Honor guard was ON TOP OF the 40-50 hour job I did so don't cry about your tax dollars. I also helped bury 300 veterans / retirees / active duty all over IN, MI, WI, IL, KY, TN, MO on TOP of my job which means I lost many many weekends so that families could have us put their war hero grandfather to rest, the 30 year retirees that gave their entire lives to service, the active duty that had fallen while serving.

Those guys will undoubtedly stare death in the face and stab it in the eyes more than once in their careers.

The practice and discipline to pull those maneuvers off is incredible. We used fixed bayonettes during performances and dress rehearsals. Sometimes people did get hurt, but hardly as much a risk as young soldiers take just crossing town in some places.

I feel ya. I’ve been in the Air Force for 10 years, and have served on the base honor guard for almost as long (2 separate bases). Honor Guard is what you put into it, and I’ve always considered it an honor to be there for these families, and help them lay to rest their hero. I myself have been trying to develop a rifle drill team on this base honor guard. I’m the only one around here with any skills with a riffle, so it’s going a little slow. But were making progress. We should be ready for out first performance around mid-Dec. I’m the first to admit to my guys that I’m no were near that good, but as you said…that’s their job. 12 hours a day that’s all they do. If we had that time we’d be that good to.
Great comment, you really nailed. Take it easy

I hope I see you when my father passes away. Most people have no idea how close we came to WWIII during the 70's. The long hours that were put in keeping things prepared to the point it caused people to fear war. And we should be afraid of war.
Men like yourself who honnor others are a rare breed. So if you make it to SC for a honor gaurd funeral, be sure to say Hello.

Grow a ball and join...oh, wait, you're the type that doesn't owe this country anything, we owe you.

You don't owe me S**t What I owe my country is to fight for what I believe is best for the US. I do my part so don't you dare criticize my patriotism. To be completely honest with you, tax dollars could be spent better somewhere else, but this doesn't upset me like a $15,000 hammer does.

Grow up stupid, untrained monkeys could do better than that load of imbiciles.

Chimpanzees and children can learn skills; they can learn dicipline; and in fact skill and dicipline require practice. Also learning requires skill, dicipline and practice. Wow where am I going with this? Lets think? Oh yes Where does independant thinking, wisdom and leadership come into play here? Is it after the mental conditioning or does it ever actually occur?

independant thinking. They are all about training and dicipline. "Creating instinct," so to speak. For most people, indep. thinking should already exist. To even become a marine you already have to have wisdom and leadership, that's why they are "the few, the proud..." they don't take just anybody and they definately don't take sheep who only think they are people.

Your comments are apropos. Stephen.

I respect the soldiers that fight and protect our country... but 'To even become a marine you already have to have wisdom and leadership'... that is why the kids that don't go to college join the armed services, why student council presidents and the leaders of schools don't go to the armed services... sorry, but the top kids for wisdom and leadership don't join the marines, they go to college. (usually!)

Well, jack, I spent 12 years as an enlisted Marine. I now have a BA in Geomatics Engineering, and I am a Licensed Surveyor. I'll no further dignify your assinine comments, save to say, were it not for the best and the brightest that have given their lives for our Country and our beloved Corps, you'd have no little college to hide-out in. I'm sure your parents are proud of you. Personally, you hubritic little S**t , you and your ilk make me sick.

lawyers and politicians

You must have graduated from the John Kerry school for sticking foot in mouth. Im thinking real hard, but that may be the dumbest thing I ever heard someone say.
Yeah, the top kids for wisdom go to college allright...West Point, Naval Academy, Air Force Academy, etc.

Drill team OK Marines ig general BRAINWASHED

How about instead of doing a little choreographed dance number they actually do some training for wars. Watch these dudes in Iraq start doing a baton routine with their gun instead of shooting it and get owned. What a waste of tme...

These guys could easily make you look like a brownie scout, or a french soldier.

The first training of all marines is warfare training.

why do u sign ur a** up in the military if ur gonna complain

This takes guts and motivation, people always ask WHY DO I PAY MY MONEY FOR THIS. If you dont know, this kind of discipline creates the US Army/ Navy/ USMC/ USCG the best concentration on battle than any other in the entire world, makes them prepared. Why do they do all these hand tricks with rifles and spin them? Because when someone throws them the rifle next time they will be able to get it from any direction and get it right into position to shoot because of this training! This takes Guts!

but would surely make a superb dance troupe :)

...ALLWAYS SAY THANK YOU SOLDIERS, for your exprssion here,
thank soldier, for being a gay and not being stoned to death, thank soldier
you little p**y! Without soldiers and Veterans, you would pray 6 times a day
on your knees looking toward mecca!
Now, the best soldiers on this Planet are The Serbs, most experieced, self
confident and with unsurpassed CURAGE (NATO had full pants by thinking
sending the ground forces 7 years ago to Serbian prov. of Kosovo) 600 years
of wars, deffending Europe of islamo-fascist turks, deffending Bosnia from
KKKintons mujahedins (payed by Teheran), KKKlinton ordered bombing of
Serbia for 79 days to please islamo-fascist albanian drug cartel... Hitler's friends
from yesterday, KKKlintons friends today!!!! History is reapiting by stupid idiots
who never learned from it!

Want to see some excellant discipline? Go and watch "The Trooping Of The Colour"
Britian has ALWAYS had the best fighting force in the World........ BAR NONE!!

no the british hasnt always had the best military if they did there wouldnt be an america you idiot

Oh, I forgot. The American War of Independence!! And we had to fight that from over 3000 miles away!
America = quantity
Britain = QUALITY!

I wouldn't be American even if I was born there!!

I will now "Grow Up."

The postings arriving on this site come from a diverse, group.

What you just saw is less about "dress up," "tossing the guns around" or... or, "I wanna be a robot."

It has everything to do with what my fingers just typed out. Freedom. It just happened to end up on the keys of my computer this PM in Hawaii.

Continuing, if you don't get it, you don't get it. The Few, The Proud. The Marines. That Takes Care Of That.

Finally, as in all my professional work, I, insist, upon, accuracy. Before you open your mouth vis-a-vis The United States Marine Corps, in the future, be accurate, in all respects. Stephen.

you're predestined to be a P***y

theres is no honor anymore

those that don't honor them should move out of the country

It takes more skill to do that then anything you've done before. know your role and shut your mouth.

"If they tell me to kill, I kill"

probably just a mirror

MAn, i'm a Samurai!

impressive but i ask...WHY...is it to show who is the best.Or is it for for showing off.Or is to give these...macho man...something to do during peace time.

Why do airforce pilots to stunts at airshows? i dont think its cos theyre bored in peace time? I bet youve done some showing off in your own time, just hoping to get a tiny bit of the attention that their skill gets!

what would they be showing off? The best fighting unit in the world is the british S.A.S(dont say im prejudiced either, im not british), and they can "show off" on how much they are trying to improve dicipline right now, but they are not the best fighting unit in the world... by the way about robots.... they are MEANT to seem like robots, it is meant to show to the public that their soldiers are well trained experts who'll blow an Iraqi's head off with no trouble at all... but when you meet one of them, you can bet your sweet ass that they are a hell of a lot more relaxed than you are.

and your SONS TOO!

For having such a "large brain" he had very little common sense and limited basic life skill's such as being able to keep himself clean or even feed himself. He may have been able to figure out the theory of relativity and thing's as such but as a person he was useless. If a war was to come he would hide in a corner and cry please don't hurt me, I will be your slave.
War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of thing's. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which think's that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made or kept so by the exertions and courage of better men than himself. John Stuart Mill.

War is disgusting and should only be a last resort. As for our armed forces, if any person that says they are a U.S. citizen (you may or may not be, I realize that) has a grudge against our soldiers simply because they are not in agreement with the concept of warfare simply needs to grow up. Albert Einstien is proof that an extremely intelligent mind can also be a rather small one at times. His quote never allows for the fact that war is sometimes necessary, and if it did, it would imply that soldiers should be forced to fight against their will rather than join of their own accord. At home soldiers may joyfully march in rank file but on the battlefield only the rare few find themselves in the midst of constant jeopardy and actually enjoy it. I come from a military oriented family; every one of my siblings has served in the armed forces at one time or another, yet being a pacifist I have never joined. Yet I still recognize that if every nation that claimed to be peace loving and a democratic society laid down their arms, only a matter of time would find every one of us under the rule of another Stalin or Castro or Hussien. Complain about war all you want, if you had your way you would find yourself complaining about slavery.

Here's another...
He who would sacrifice liberty for security deserves neither. People like you are the sheep who make the warriors life worth living, for if you refuse to stand for what is right, if you are too cowardly to take hold of freedom and pull it from the grasp of those who would keep it from you, then you deserve to live under the rule of an iron fist. For myself, I would rather die free than live in servitude to a despot...
The first is one of our nations greatest leaders. I'd try to enlighten you, but from your previous post I see that attempting to instruct you would be as casting my pearls before swine. The second half is an original work. I'd ask you to cite it in any future writings, but asking so much from one who obviously knows so little would be an exercise in absolute futility...

...trust me 1American - the minute the second half of your quote becomes applicable to a certain situation i will happily quote it (I quite like it actually). However, as it stands, it's nothing but hot air. NEVER since the Cuban missile crisis have the American people been at risk of losing their "freedom" or national security. The last four years have been nothing but an episode of Seinfeld. It would be funny if it weren't so horrifyingly real.

It was the British Aussies Kiwis Canadians and Commonwealth that took the fight to the Nazis when they invaded Poland. The states only joined in 4 years later when they realised the allies were probably going to win.

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swedishmeatball, how did you know i'm tired of my guns? I am going to get rid off all of them. every last one. Do you have any new ones I can buy? the only thing sweden has contributed to the world is the chef on the muppets.

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And on what battlefield have the americans won in the last 5 decades?
They don't seem to be doing very well where ever they go.

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'NUFF SAID!

You've obviously led a very sheltered life, then MissD!

what is it for? ...

And learning calculus and biology in highschool helps you become a stock broker or an accountant? This is merely a demonstation of discipline, coordination, and teamwork. Why does everything have be flat out obvious for people to see it, quit being so ignorant.

Apparently, my attempt at making a joke fell short of it's target! I actually enjoyed the display, but I've been in Afghanistan myself and I've seen what war is about, so it disgusts me when folks try and glorify the military! I know better than most about waht teamwork, coordination and dicipline is about, this is just plain showing off.
Americans have an incessant need to compete in all and nothing, this puzzles me a bit.
I served with lots of americans and brits down there, also in Libanon, and we made jokes about this every chance we got!
While they're flailing their rifles around in grandeur and flash to impress an audience, others maintain peace and order like real soldiers.

Regards; Sergeant First Class Lars Joar Lande!

of these young men signed up with the thought they would never see active duty? I can't help but think that simply because they have a little extra training in how to show off doesn't mean they aren't just as willing to fight for what they believe as the next grunt.

I believe you have an excellent point there, and of course, they are trained in the mundane arts of war as well!
I'd welcome any one of them by my side any time!
It's just the military humor that offends some people sometimes.
When you're in the army, you joke about the army, you joke about routine, and even the things that scare you profoundly to gain some measure of distance to the claustrofobic feeling you get sometimes.
I mean no disrespect to any soldier anywhere in the world, I've seen and done to much to be able to!
Americans are mostly a very kind sort in my experience, and the soldiers I've met on duty are warm and caring individuals whose only wish is to do their best! I respect that just as much as the next man!
One thing bothering me though, is that most of them are from really poor families, and sign up most out of need rather than wish!
This is really sad indeed, and shame on the American leaders for paying such a lousy salary to these soldiers!!
18.000$ a year for risking your life and working around the clock is not the way to show gratitude, so I'm glad you citizens pay proper homage to them!
Having your leaders pat your back is nice enough, but seeing or hearing civilians garnering support for you among their peers is plain fantastic!
And I think those who oppose these wars also understand that the rifleman can't be blamed for getting, relaying or executing orders he or she may not always approve of.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again here. It is so patently easy for those of us who are really in the military to pick out those who just wish they were. Maybe, boy, when you graduate high school, you too can join the military, but you'll probably end up with a career in fast food. You try to pass yourself off as a soldier, but what soldier have you met who would laugh about the skills of another? The answer? There isn't one. Warriors will show nothing but respect for other warriors. Even their enemies. You, little one, will never have what it takes to be one. Were I you, besides seriously contemplating suicide, I wuold keep my fingers off the keyboard until I knew what I was talking about. Perhaps you will find some videos on this site dealing woith the teletubbies. Tey are probably more to your speed...

True

Americans tend to drastically change their behaviour when they see the real world, a world where nothing is black and white!
We europeans have a different take on things, and we actually understand how acts of terror are roused into motion because we understand the consequences of playing "liberators" globally. Trust me, none in my platoon, or anybody elses had any misconception regarding the skills in combat of other soldiers!
We also had no misconception that these recent wars are meaningless and actually the works of men who see fit to extract riches from countries where dictators rule, expecting to be able to claim them for their own as a reward for killing bad men...
Well, guess what, Bin Laden is still alive, and Hussein never represented a threat to the US!
Of course, Bush invaded Iraq just to liberate the people, allthough this was'nt his primary obejctive initially!
This was said after it turned out there were no WMD there, so he had to find a "plausible" reason to have invaded.
As for my pont of view; as soon as you see combat up close, everything changes.
Neither I, or any of my fellow soldiers, regardless of nationality are robots who are programmed to assume what the Fox news channel say to you!
Some of us will be going to Libanon again this month, because of the ingenious idea some norwegian had of printing carricatures of the prophet Mohammed! There's lost of unrest that most affect us europeans, and I've lost a handful of friends in strife near the middle east and in arabic countries!
Furthermore, I would never shame soldiers by lying to anyone about these things!
I know a marine who's trained in similar drilling, and he said to me one night we were drinking; "I wish i could learn to shoot while I drill my rifle around, so it'd be like swashbuckling!"
Then we all laughed and started drilling around twigs and stuff, roaring in mock defiance to our comanders (who were also there)!
This is simply soldier humor, and even I have to put up with being immitated by some of the men!

I do not believe that Hitler ever presented a threat to the U.S. either, but I hear surprisingly few Europeans telling America that we should have stayed out of that war. Looking back though, I'm kind of wishing we had. I do speak German, and if Hitler had been allowed to continue, I could have actually travelled to every country on the European continent and been able to converse with the now German population...

Without america, europe would still have turned back Hitler in the second world war. I would say that russia had more to play in that role than the americans. I think that 1America has been watching to many historically innacurate hollywood movies such as saving private ryan or U571. Go buy a history book. As to the comment about allowing Hitler to overrun europe, well you showed your true colours there and the ultimate disrespect to your vets. In future your comments will be taken less seriously

Fisrstly, the US did'nt involve themselves before their economic interests were at risk, at least not on the european continent.
And second, Hitler was vastly more dangerous to us than Saddam could ever be!
Hitler made 7 countries capitulate in less than 6 months, and took only 2 years to conquer and hold more land than Djenghis Khan ever had!
The german warmachine must be the most effective in history i think, and even though Hitler was stark raving mad, I really admire german tacticians for having the nerve (and skill) to accomplish such feats.
I don't disagree with removing Saddam, he's deserving of everything he's getting now, but the US should have stayed back until they could muster some more troops from a european coalition!
I'm glad he's gone, but i openly laughed when i heard an arrogant Rumsfeld stating they would invade and control Iraq in five days...
That's grosely underestimating your enemy!
These wars are really dividing, and personally I can't be pulled in either direction! I've seen it up close AND heard other people's reactions, I really don't know what's right in all this.
But the next time (and there will be one), I hope the US will listen to well meant advice and don't go charging in solo without knowing what they're getting into!
A more balanced president and advisors (they're rather screwed up some of them...) would serve the american people well I think!
One that's neither to the right nor left in politics (if such a man exists :-) )!

you're saying all soldiers have the same point of view and because he doesn't like glorifying war, that means he can't be a soldier?
Well I live in a military town and I know plenty of squaddies who agree with Lars about this when we're talking in the pub. (They still do it of course, though). It's interresting living in a military town... for 2 months before afghanistan, i was woken up every day to the sound of the rifle ranges.

I think you misunderstood! I meant those other guys! You seem to agree with me, and I liked the way you put it! That's why I addressed that comment to you!
Thanks for sticking up to those with manners was all I wanted to say! :-)

I think some of these guys have been reading a bit to much Soldier of Fortune and are actually living a Hollywood movie in their eager, macho oriented heads...
I try to be polite and to the point, and some people just can't argument like adults, instead resorting to insults and belittling of answers they can't quite disarm...
Alarming really, to think that they expect to be taken seriously!
Were they in my platoon, I'd kick them out immideatly! No room for Rambo's in the army, at least not where I come from...

im just saying you can't say the guy's not a soldier because your optinion must be the same as all other soldiers... some of the squaddies I know agree with the lars dude, they say drills and parades are pointless, and I know they're soldiers.. what has that got to do with novels and rambo?!?!

The S.A.S. is a great unit and the SEAL/UDT community learned a great deal from them but the S.A.S. is under funded and undermanned. You need the job done, go with SEAL Team 6....end of chat.

You would rather go with a SEAL team? Then good luck to you Ha!

My money would always be with the SAS/ SBS or the Royal Marines.
The Elite fighting forces in the World......... including good 'ol US of A!

are a strange little man.

If the river dance troop could tack a towel head from a thousand yards, then yes, they too could be marines...

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