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Big drum set, nice drummer - One for the rockers ;)
Who is this? The drums are great, but the heavy guitar is F**king awesome! Voice is good, it's at least intelligable. Most harcore bands with great guitar usually have a F**king singer that sounds like some sort of swamp water regurgitation....you know like Gwar kinda S**t I'd definately buy this CD.
By centerfold 1154183990Dream Theater is the name of the band, the songs he played came from the album Train of Thought probably their bet Album
By Borkay 1154355876Scenes from a Memory - Octavarium - and the new one systamatic chaos - see ya at Wembley Arena 13th October London
By Old Man Rob 1182882217I went and bought an album called Octavarium (wrong one), thank God they let me exchange it cause it was AWEFUL. It was like the singer from Stryper and type0negative got together to make some meaninless drivel compilation of absolute S**t The album Train of Thought is like a different band altogether. Though still not great. Many of the songs have at least a few minutes of great music each, but unfortunately have also a few minutes each of drivel as well. The headline song (from the clip start) is called "As I Am" and starts out bad with lots of singing to words similar to what they would do impromptu on "Whose line Is it Anyway". No melody, and great guitar and drum solo's going off in all different directions. Having said that...It all comes together for one of the best chorus' segments I've ever heard. It seems each song had some brilliance and crap mixed in. Not one song put it all together. A feat that apparantly only Metallica and a few others have been able to do. I would compare Dream Theater to Megadeth in this regard.
Anyone agree with me?
Try Liquid Tension Experiment, Mike Portnoy (Drum) , John Petrucci (Guitar), and Jordan Rudes (keyboard) stay but instead of the amazing John Myung (Bass) they take the also incredible Tony Levin and (thanks god) no singer.
I like it even better than Dream Theater, may be you do too...
By the way in the net there is a video of them called "Dream Theater Medley" that is 12 minutes of just crazy, crazy stuff, i love it! Check if you can find it too.
You can go to the "Liquid Tension Experiment" site and listen samples before you buy anything...
By Bcnbartender 1155220794you forgot joey jordison as a second drummer and James Hetfield as a singer
By shadowman12 1164594297DON'T you dare compare Dream Theater to Megadeth, Dream Theater = progressive, Megadeth = trash ><. If you dont like progressive music, dont review it. Mike Portnoy is the best progressive drummer out there, Petrucci on of the best guitarist out there... all these guys are very talented. Also those guys who say that Mike is being excesive because he has so many cymbals.. would you blame a pianist because he has so many keys but only uses few of them? Just cause he doesnt use ALL in ONE moment doesnt mean he does not use them at all. Again if you dont know S**t about drumming or a particular drummer YOU should not review those kind of things.
By Bajanek 1154725698Some pianists do use all keys. Plus, your example is pretty dumb. It's like saying a bass guitar should only have 3 strings, rather than 4. But watever. I don't think he has too many cymbals, I just think your example is pretty bad.
By happymand2 1187974808i play the drums. i have one cymbal in my set. i make do. i disagree with you because when i use different techniques i can get like half a dozen sounds out of it. i don't think i'd ever need more than 4, tops. a ride cymbal, a china cymbal, and a crash and a light splash. that's like 20 different sounds if you know how to use them. so yes i think this guys (like many drummers, mainly the metal band kind) go way too far with their sets.
By Snaggles 1155006707Actually, I withdraw my last statement saying he doesn't have too many cymbals. Now I say he does. And a piano player cant make different sounds with each key.
By happymand2 1187974907Mike Portnoy, inducted into the Drummers Hall of Fame this year, is so far advanced it is mind boggling. See him live just once and you will walk away shaking your head. Best drummer, best showman, and turning into a damn good back up singer. He has won best rock, progressive and overall drummer 8 years in a row before he was inducted into the H of F. Also wins best instructional DVD for the last 2 years. 2 words describe him: F**kING AWESOME!!!!!
By Flowdrip 1160040875this guy doesn't even use half the cymbals he has....i have a hihat, crash, splash, and ride and i get by perfect....but then again, i play punk and ska, so not much cymbals are needed
By Niek 1155122594but this is a really small clip for them. most of their songs are ten to 15 minutes long. if you buy the dvd "liquid drum theater" then you can see him using everything.
By chrisx 1163808870I've seen them live and he uses everything!!! He is the craziest drummer i've ever seen followed close by Simon Phillips
By Bcnbartender 1155219881sorry then, my bad...
my comment was just based on what i saw in this clip....
in that case, i would like to see him live :P
I play the drums for 10 years now, i have 7 cymbals . Using different techniques? Besides accenting the cymbal with bass or a snare OR hitting the bell, you can only change the volume of a particular cymbal. You can also grab the cymbal so it doesnt resonate later. But thats not A DIFFERENT SOUND. Have you seen Terry Bozzio's set? He has like 50 tomes all sorted out chromaticly
By Bajanek 1155074690hit the cap, or hit with back of the stick, hit from under, creates all different sounds
By Niek 1155122676..you are not a drummer. 1rst you dont know how "the cap" is called. Erm what do you mean by "the back" of a stick? HITTING IT FROM UNDER? ARE YOU MENTALLY IMPARED?
By Bajanek 1155212491never seen a cymbal upside down??
and btw, calling it the cap is enough for me, as long as i can hit it and it sounds good, why would i need a name for it?? it's about the sound dude, don't need names
The band members have individual talent but are mostly creating pure S**t This segment (the clip) is the pinnacle of what they can do. Unfortunately the songs are an average of 10 minutes each in length and have only about 1 minute of this kind of sound within them. The rest of the songs are unsynchronized crap. JUST LIKE MEGADETH! Some great guitar and sometimes some melody...but mostly S**t You know when you have to fast forward in a song over 6 minutes to get to a good part, they pretty much S**k I was exited to get this album after seeing this clip, but was grossly dissappointed with the rest of their crap. It's no different than a phenominal guitarist who plays fast as hell, but the notes make no sense. E.V.H however takes speed and melody to create actual music. I'm sorry Bajanek if you are hung on this band as one of your favorites. Maybe you feel better about yourself protecting this obscure talentless (as a group) band that frankly not many people have ever heard of. By the way, by progressive do you mean repetative, non-melodic, non-in sync, garbage?...Oh, I see your point then.
By centerfold 1154794951Progressive metal is a genre of heavy metal music which shares traits with progressive rock including use of complex compositional structures, odd time signatures, and intricate instrumental playing. The high level of musical proficiency is often combined with a lyrical counterpart in the form of epic textual concepts, resulting in lengthy songs and concept albums. As a result of these factors, progressive metal is rarely heard on mainstream radio and video programs. That answers most of your questions, THATS why many people never heard of Dream Theater. Not synchornised? Maybe you dont know S**t about odd-time signatures? Anyway, you dont like them, i do EOT. Petrucci is one of the guitar players who can play fast as hell and melt peoples faces, and whos solos actually MEAN something in the song. Not like Mr.Michael Angelo, he S**ks big time imo =o.
By Bajanek 1154796079Michael Angelo.. sure he spent alot of time shredding. But that's all I've heard him do, shred meaningless notes.
I love Dream Theater and always have since I first heard them. For the guy who liked Petrucci's playing, I suggest you buy Suspended Animation, it's his solo album and I think you'd like it
No doubt are these guys spectacular musicians. When I was young and not so mature, I believed they WERE the best musicians on the planet. But as time goes on, and you improve, you learn that music isn't about complex compositions or insane measures of oddtime.. No music is about the listener. Now I like to sit back and listen first.. unlike Dream Theater in which the first time I heard it I had to think my way through what I just heard.. that should come later. Think about it..
By rothyman 1167367504Just because you don't understand it it doesn'T have to be crap! They are amazing!!! (if they could kill the canadian singer they would be perfect lol)
By Bcnbartender 1155220046What is there to understand? It's either good or it's not. Is there some magical drug I'm supposed to take that makes all my good taste in music vanish...then I magically like meaningless drivel S**t called 'progressive music'?
By centerfold 1155220363Why are you so agressive? Their music is not S**t and you know it. Years ago i thought J.S.Bach, Duke Ellington, and Spultura were crap and people just pretended to like it to be cool. With the time you listen to it and learn to enjoy it. I love good music, not matter if is classic, jazz, rock, house (yes there is even good talented house) etc. They are amazing musicians, they work really hard and areconsidered between the best of the world, their music is really complicated and not for every one and i rather heard them live than in cd.
You can tell me that you don't like them and i fully agree with you thay they are kind of weird sometimes (i don't like Picasso, nor Miró, basically i don't understand it) But you can't say they are S**t and without talent, and if you do really think so then you probably think spice girls are talented and then (again in my opinion) you have no credibility whatsoever so no point in keep discussing
And now for all the "smart a s s e s" that are gonna make a review of my spelling, english is my 3rd language so be happy if you understand me at all because it means that it wasn't that bad... lol
hey centerfold, i am just passing by to tell u just to lay off the pills. you stupid F**k just told us that the best fuckin band that rocks this planet is complete S**t just get a life and 3-4 Dream Theater albums and start all over from the start, to meet what music is... i hate all those idiots who cant accept the greatness and importance of bands like dream theater. go F**k yourself.
By Reverie 1155216220I said, this clip sounded great. HOWEVER, the rest of their pathetic attempts are pure S**t Greatness and importance.....what the F**k are you talking about? Impotence maybe. They S**k just face it. To all those no taste bastards that keep saying....."whaaaa! their progressive...thier progressive...."I don't give a S**t , it S**ks , and I have zero respect for you for being able to stand listening through that torturous crap. Between Octavarium and Train of Thought.....(2 albums with almost 2 hours of S**t ) there was collectively about 4 minutes of great sounds like this clip. It's hardly worth searching for. If you dropped a quarter in the bottom of a porto-let, are you going to sift through the S**t to recover it?....you pathetic progressive moron people?
By centerfold 1155220073are you deaf? i have every single one of their songs available to me and absolutely none of it is "unsynchronized" and most definitely not "s**t" most, if not all the members of this band are some of the most credited musicians from some of the best music schools around. jordan rudess was in a music college (i forget which one) at age nine! and portnoy went to berkley i believe. you seriously need to take another listen to those CDs and get your friggin ears checked. this is the best band out there, and i doubt anybody will ever top their talent.
By chrisx 1163808366At first, a guy who talks like that seems mentally derranged. You could watch your tongue a bit, if you dont like the band just DON'T get their music and close your perfect taste ears when Dream Theater is rocking on a nearby loudspeaker. What's your problem? There are thousands of people out there you can assure you that your words are pure bullshit, and you are TOO SMALL to judge a 20-year-old band with a huge career and some music which some people find perfect. And we "pathetic progressive moron people", at least some of us make music for a living and happen to know some things about music. If you got further comments, just shovel them up your asshole, shut the F**k up and go listen to whatever you enjoy without being a fuckin clown in a forum, both you and all the music "specialists" who think alike.
By Reverie 1155563010they should keep dreaming!! maybe not in a theater! LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL !!
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If any of you out their are under the impression that Joey is really that good then you ovbviously dont have much idea what you're talking about. All death metal and metal drummers can play fast double bass etc and travis brker isnt anything but average. Kai Hahto from wintersun could beat the crap out of those two in drumming any day. he can play fast double bass and also with style and groove because hes in two death metal bands and one jazz quartet he uses what he knows from both genres two create some incredible beats which people like jordison couldnt play for crap. of course talent is involved but its really also about innovation. alot of people play very fast but the stuff they play is boring. Kai hahto's drums in wintersun - i can't say even one song has boring drum parts or even typical drums parts( apart from maybe ' sleeping stars'). Its all about creating something over all thats intersting, mind blowing and not typical boring crap.
Well I'm in like... 3 metal bands, 6 jazz quartets, a barber shop quartet, and a polka/ techno trio. That must mean I'm better. How about we give them all props for being talented. Portnoy is the best I've ever seen. You're not a drummer, are you? Every drummer knows that the fastest way S**k is to compare yourself to other drummers. I'm not the best but, there is no other drummer that plays like me. So shut up.
p.s. if you like dream theatre check out liquid tension experiment.... same guys.
best comment here!
I also love L.T.Experiment better because they got rid of the canandian (the singer) who is very talented and his voice has amazing power but it gets on my nerves!
why do you need to put talented drummers down just because your opinion differs? saying that Joey is not that good makes you a moron. so what if you can find someone better - has anyone claimed that he is the best? so if you're not Kai Hahto, you're not good? what crap! your ignorance is an embarrassment to musicians and fans alike. "boring" is an opinion, and you're entitled to that. but the rest of your rant is pure horsesh*t.
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I like the fills and stuff. This guy has a lot of material. A little one dimensional- I would like to see and hear more musical styles. (I can detect a lot of Cobham and Appice...am I right?) How about kicking some country? Dude you could break the door open if you could transfer that metal-stuff to some country...seriously. Nobody else has stretched like that Great Chops!!!
By Menasha Fats 1184730178you said... "Who is this? The drums are great, but the heavy guitar is F**king awesome! Voice is good, it's at least intelligable. Most harcore bands with great guitar usually have a F**king singer that sounds like some sort of swamp water regurgitation....you know like Gwar kinda S**t I'd definately buy this CD."
i'm sorry, as F**king awesome as dream theater is, they are NOT hardcore. sic drums and heavy guitars do NOT make it hardcore. this is hard rock.
you must be old. like, really really old.
thats awsome, ive seen him twice live at G3 and with dreamtheater hah and mike kinda took the attention away from petrucci which is suprising.
great drummer, great guitarist , great band, great F*CKING MUSIC! =]
my names john anderson and i am 1 of britains new drum talent. i am 13 years old right and if one day u see the names john anderson and yusef dayes as talented drummers u'll know that i visit metacafe. lo, bye
is the best rock band EVER!!! i heard that when he played the "scenes from a memory" concert he fainted afterwards from being over exhausted from playing. the man is awesome, and the band is too.
mike, you and jordan are my heroes!!!!
all there albums r gr8 better than the stuff we have avalible 2day
By old skool metal 1163702588all these comments on how the drummer is and no comments about what songs are played!! can someone plz tell mi the songs that are played in this video!!
By unknown_cunt 1160438844the drums are much better then the guitar that double base is awesome im 15 n played drums for abotu a year now n dat was just amazing!
By WOLF-EYE 1158268342great drummer - terrible song chosen- He plays on a much higher level than this music portrays
By Swingtime 1157933226That Is the Most BULL CRAP thing I have ever seen!!!!!!!! You guys didn't notice how his hands didn't even match the music. That's crap! That makes me mad! Now everyone that see's that thinks hes better than he is! No one can go as fast as that video!
By J.02 1156822045i dont blame you for being nu-metal and buying octa & train of thought.get images and words instead!
By sengal 1156064049just get the "AWAKE" album, or the "SCENES FROM A MEMORY" album. youll hear how DREAM THEATER makes great music. peace!
By marcowpg3 1155357398you can buy the dvd "liquid drum theater" and you can see him playing, you can change camera angles and all kinds of things. he explains how the band uses different time signatures and its also helpful for anybody taking a music course in school.
By chrisx 1163808511Band = Dream theater
Man = Mike Portnoy
7 time in a row progressive drummer of the year award winner.
amazing drummer
Portnoy is the sickest drummer out there. sure hes not the absolute fastest, but hes got the sickest licks and can play in any time frame...DT ROCKS!!!!
Mike if you can see this...i love you, youre my hero...lol
first of all.. I agree, don't compare Dream Theater with Megadeth :( Megadeth are trash-metal.. Dream Theater is experimental progressive music.. So, not to point a finger at anyone, but Dream Theater have extreme talents, and personally I like their melodic songs the best.. Have been to a Dream Theater consert, and it was a dissapointment..=/ They were trying too much to make perfect music, and it was quite boring.. Compared to the Metallica consert I went to.. I really like Dream Theater, but I really understand people that don't. It's a very special kind of metal.. I think their talents sometimes are too good, by that I mean that in the songs everybody tries to get out a solo all the time. And some songs seems very messy. Btw, centerfold.. Try to listen to their song, a change of seasons... That is a melodic wonder... take care..
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Portnoy rocks, as does Dream Theater. If you don't like it, don't listen to it. Simple.
By deanhatescoffee 1155065615This is some pretty rudimentary drivel. That sort of drum kit is only impressive to non-musicians. Any good drummer could whip his arse around the block and back with a kick, floor-tom, single rack-tom, hi-hat, ride-cymbal and a single crash.
The rhythm guitar part is annoyingly repetetive and utterly unimaginitive, as are the vocals.
About what I'd expect from a bunch of talentless louts who don't know anything about the craft.
Let's see a video of yours and see if your talent is as big as your mouth...
By Bcnbartender 1155224627You know sooo much more than them, i gess.
Look in their web site their achievements and what they studied and you will find out that this is the first time they actually played at all (for people without imagination this last was sarcasm lol)
Mike's long list of Awards include 23 Modern Drummer Magazine Reader's Poll Awards including: 2004 Hall of Fame Inductee, Best Progressive Rock Drummer (12 years in a row!!), Best Clinician (twice), Best Educational Video/DVD for Liquid Drum Theater, and Best Recorded Performance of the Year (5 times) for Dream Theater's Awake, A Change of Seasons, Falling Into Infinity, Scenes From A Memory, and Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence.
Not bad for not "having a clue" ...
But as i said I'M SURE YOU DID MUUUCH BETTER AND CAN KICK HIS ASS!!!
He may need all those cymbals to create the sound he's looking for, but a true professional drummer can do the same with a more limited array of cymbals. But you know, let's forget all that, forget Gene Krupa, forget Ginger Baker, and all the other terrific drummers that have come and gone, Mike Porno-boy is the best ever!
By chuck-a-luck 1154976950if you guys have ever seen what Mike Portnoy's set currently looks like, it's almost two sets. you can see his second snare drum in there, and he probably moved the second throne away, but normally he has 2 thrones. it is a bit overboard, but it's like having 2 sets, and having the cymbals set up to coincide with the current song he's playing. it's mostly hidden by the camera angle, but the same equipment is basically on either side of him, arranged differently.
By Tyrenio 1154839831I forgot to mention his set's name is the "Siamese Monster", hence why it's basically two sets linked together.
By Tyrenio 1154840565but when it's all said and done, John Bonham or Keith Moon could kick this guys ass . . if they were till alive that is. and to the one guy who got i'll at the megadeth dream theatre comparison . . . .when it's all broken down to it's bare bones limit . . .it's all the same S**t . . .
By homer_is_gay 1154783784Are you serious dude?Bonham and Moon have absolutly nothing on Mike.I just love when people with absolutly no drumming knowledge open there pieholes.
By Firefighter1 1154968242he is actually right according to this site
http://www.digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_drummers.html
i personally think jon theodore of mars volta is going to be one of the best!
the band is called PROPAIN and they are from Swtzerland, abit obscure, I know, but he rocks and would give this lame ass a run for his money...
This guy showed me nothing. Surrounding yourself with 43 cymbals and being able to use the double bass does not a great drummer make........
By chuck-a-luck 1154570760Well if u never heared about mike portnoy, u shouldn't make a comment like that at all:P
By Faeh 1154663362I never said I'd never heard of him, I just think having so many cymbals, while only using about four, seems a bit excesive, kinda like owning nine automobiles, but only driving one.....
By chuck-a-luck 1154689719"Would you blame a pianist because he has so many keys but only uses few of them?,just cause he doesnt use ALL in ONE moment doesnt mean he does not use them at all. Again if you dont know S**t about drumming or a particular drummer YOU should not review those kind of things." part of my post above =o
By Bajanek 1154725903Having played the piano AND the drums I can tell you this......A piano has 88 keys, 7 notes(in different octives and sharpes or flats), and most decent pianist will use around 50 of those keys during any one non-simplistic "song." While drumming uses more syncrynicity between left hand, right hand, left foot, right foot, the necessity of more than a half dozen cymbals is totally useless. If you know what you're doing, you can create all the sounds of a cymbal you need with much less than Mr. Portnoy. It just seems that a lot of it is more for "show" than actual use.
By chuck-a-luck 1154735686You just proved you dont know S**t about drumming, thank you. Btw, if you would actually watch some of Portnoy's clinics or DVD"s OR SOMETHING, you would know why he uses so much cymbals, he explains everything there. Some of the reasons cutrush explained.
P.S. You didnt get the part about the pianist in my post .
Besides the fact that all the cymbals sound different, there is possitioning to consider. If your doing a fast roll for example from left to right on the toms, you may need the crash or splash right there. Swinging your whole arm around then back again will take too long. So if you can afford the kit you need, to play what you want how you want, go for it. Sounds to me like someone is jealous!
By cutrush 1154771585Your comparison is inane. The keys of a keyboard are used to create only one sound no matter how many there are. A drum kit, on the other hand, is divided up by function. Repetition of function equals useless redundancy. The amount of repetition of pieces in that kit just means that it consists of a lot of redundant junk.
I wrote my thesis on the percussive element in music, so don't try insulting my intelligence by claiming that I don't know what I'm talking about.
omg, have u guys ever heard of dream theatre??
that guy on drums " Mikey Portnoy " hes i a f***ing
amazaing PRO DRUMMER !
rolf at u guys who says hes not pro :P
He is a sponsored drummer. What would cost you around 10K for a custom made set, Mike is the spokesman for the drum company which gives him everything his heart desires. It pays to practice, practice, practice!
By Flowdrip 1160080145dream theater song is take me as i am one of their best songs, portnoy is a great drummer being one myself his double bass beats are very advanced because he can play a fast double beat while doing diffrent thing with his hands as opposed to a metal drumme rdoing constant double bass which is a lot easier he swtiches is up go to www.moderndrummer.com and check out chris adler blood of the scribe he is one of the best double bassers better than portnoy in my opinion
By DBK 1154224101It's nice to see in this world of prefab, dispoable, 3-chord bands, someone still does it right. FYI - Mike Portnoy is in the Drummer's hall of fame.
By Lord Vincent 1154204071its ok but
George Kolias - Fastest feet
Derek Roddy - Fastest hands
Both have pushed it harder and further than him.
Never heard of your "great" drummers. They don't seem to win any polls for best of anything nor are they in the Drummers Hall of Fame. When they are, then spew S**t Until then, MIKE PORTNOY IS GOD!
By Flowdrip 1177708112it sounds soooooo good if you know how to use them right and he dtefinitely does. Very tight, love it.
By JV123 1154111859I LOVE THE SOLOS, BUT SOMETIMES YOU JUST WANT TO SE THEM PLAY!
MAN, HE MAKES IT LOOK EASY....
if you dont listen to Dream Theater. man, Dream Theater is the best proggressive band in the world. every single band member are tallented. ecept the singer James Labrie. he is good, but i think he wil fit in to softer styleslike pop and that S**t and Mike Portnoyare awsome on the drums, in every way. I have seen him Live in Norway "Oslo spektrum" two times, and that rocked..
"sorry, my english is bad" hehe
im just kiding lol well i dont think its fake but is it
NO!!!!!
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By VLAP VLAP 1145563489Pleas post more of this dude i beg you plzzzz i need moer !!!!
By VLAP VLAP 1145541312I wish i could play like him or he should rather be in my band instead of me .
By VLAP VLAP 1144871748the song is as i am, taken off the amazing album train of thought, with 5 of the most talented musicians in the industry, 25 years these fuckers have been rockin the S**t outta most bands. portnoy is one of the best prog rock drummers ever!!
By porkie 1144607599sounds like metallica, i really like it, can some1 tell me the name of this plz?
By wow!!!! 1144526195Too bad you could not hear the drums with all the guitart noise over shadowing it.
By HisMajesty 1140020928Man that guitar is Joe Satriani, one of the top 5 guitarists in the world, so stop posting s**t about stuff you don't know
By Vilo 1154029561Sorry you're right its John Petrucci, :P dont know what I was thinking lol
By Vilo 1155480143I actually think Joe Satriani is great, but i rather listen to John Petrucci any time, more my style i gess
have I not heard this?????? Wicked man, love it!!!!!
By japgirls4eva 1172228147so it's a bug that one person can make so many coment for one video..
By robbiexie 1154053531you have a multi-personality problem
but may be is just us (me, my self and I)
why don't you hit on other drums?! :*(
By ddtus 1154041357The snare roll u might be hearing is just his double bass in combination with accents on his snare...
By Drugga 1154023446The video isn't in sync with the music. If Mike was such a fake, why is he the youngest musician to be inducted into the Drummers Hall of Fame? I've seen him play 11 times now, and am constantly amazed at his talent. So for all of the morons out there, it is better for you to be thought an idiot, than you opening your mouth and proving us correct.
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