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Chanting Allahu Akbar (God is Great) and wearing red headbands to symbolize their willingness to die in defense of their faith.
Allah = God in Arabic ,just like Dieu = God in French..
Please spare yourselves from sounding like fools and do some research before you paint all muslims with the same brush..
there will always be crazy hooligans in every thing..
just look at soccer fans, they riot over a stupid game!!
Dont for one second think that Christianity is all innocent either, let the priest marry, so they can get their dicks wet, so they dont R**e young boys..
let the vatican spread its wealth, t would probably end world starvatiion, instead of spending it on secret militia's and gold..
Besides Jesus would of wanted to help the less fortunate!!
hey, we did not say islam is all evil. lol. we said islamic Radicals. not common peaceful muslims. chilll. relax dude.
By AMERICAN/inIsrael 1162746519 Reply Spam [+2] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removeits not u who says that, its really the media who says that u r just repeating it. Go and find the truth about islam for urself. Peace.
By Al-Da3ia 1182094466 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveYour a T**t , shut up
-10 for being a C**k tosser
Islam is intrinsically evil. When ever you hear “Allah Akbar†(God is great) someone is about to be murdered. Using God to justify murder is evil.
By landlocked 1194977834 Reply Spam [-1] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveSo don't say any evil word. When we say allah-u Akbar we really mean it. We alway say it specially when we pray. We say it when we stand againest evil-things. how about you people kill muslims and hide it. Just fool your-selves.
By afa001 1220841039 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveListen u guys .. i`m really sorry that u feel that way about us (yes i`m a muslim) but i just hope that people can tell if a person is really a muslim or just hiding under the cover of "allahu Akbar" or islam .. people like these stupid people in the video or terrorists who call themselves muslims are NOT us .. Muslims (and i`m talking about the REAL muslims) themselves hate these people and are begging them to stop the relating these stupid things they do by the name of Allah .. i`m a muslim and i`m totally againts what these people do .. REAL MUSLIMS NEVER DO THAT !!
peace ^___^
It's sad to see people like yourself who are against the violence and terriorism get included with those people. I don't know what the numbers are like but to me it seems that there are sure quite a few crazy people involved that are and religion is the tool to manipulate their weak minds.
It's not just muslims, I am against any beliefs that think that everyone else should die if they do not agree. I have known Christians that think anyone that doesn't believe as they do EXACTLY is gong to hell. I however didn't see them trying to speed them on their way to hell by blowing them up etc.
It takes all kinds. You have to admit there is no other popular religion in the world today that is so heavily involved with terriorists, holy wars, etc.
Christianity and Judaism (since its the same holy book) don't advocate violence in their scriptures. Yeah yeah, I know a lot of evil S**t has been perpetrated through the centuries in the name of Christianity; but don't confuse what the BIBLE says with what some zealot whacko misinterprets the Bible as saying. The catholic Pope that advocated the Holy Crusades did so by delibertately misinterpreting on of the Psalms.
The key difference here is, the Bible doesn't tell people to go out and kill if they don't agree with God. The Quran, on the other hand, DOES. Mohammed loved to tell everyone how Allah wants the infidels (Jews and Christians) killed, how they'll all burn in hell, how they should have their heads cut off, be crucified, etc... Yeah, it really does say all that S**t if you take time to actually read it (I have).
Here's the problem, you can't have a "real Muslim against violence", because the very essence of Islam is violent. That's like Christians against Christ?!? Its an oxymoron. Yes, I will agree that some Muslims are not violent people, but that's because they're NOT practicing their religion as Mohammed intended it.... That should scare the S**t out of everyone.
Look you have to be fair and learn to talk only when you have true irrefutable knowledge. The Holy quran is the words of God allmighty and in it he tells the muslims to be peaceful for ours is a religion of peace this is where the term islam comes from ( Peace) No where in the quran does it say to kill or harm etc... That is just a stereotype which people like you hve been programed to understand by those who dont want anyone to be guided to the way of God allmighty! when u make a claim plz back it up with some proof such as a quotation if only u were saying the truth but you cant because whatever u said about the holy quran is absolutely not true, infact the quran teaches exactly the opposite. However the only way u can proof ur claims by the holy quran is if u take verseds out of context which many christians do nowadays inorder to please themselves. About the bible, there are many verses which support killing of even women and children and there are also hooroble laws made by "GOD" and i put it in inverted commas becasue I as a muslim would never claim that God gives horroble laws as the bible shows, of course i am not like u, if i claim something i will back it up with proof from ur own scriptures. See numbers 31:17-18 `And now, slay ye every male among the infants, yea, every woman known of man by the lying of a male ye have slain;
18and all the infants among the women, who have not known the lying of a male, ye have kept alive for yourselves. ( think about how can ppl at that time know if a women is still a virgin to keep for themselves! this is what i would caLL EVIL! PLEASE JUDGE HONOSTLY AND KEEP AN OPEN MIND.Also
deuteronomy 20:16
16 “But of the cities of these peoples which the LORD your God gives you as an inheritance, you shall let nothing that breathes remain alive,
Look, i can go to endless evil quotations from this book which you attribute to the holy name of our God allmighty but i tell you God is free from whatever you attribute to him knowingly or unknowingly! peace
oh and please learn about prophet mohammad and his life and message and i promise you u will not find a better man than him in the history of mankind u will be surprised of howmuch you can learn and benefit from as a human being.
Stop believing your media and open your minds . They are controling your mind you childish victim . uffffffffffff I am tired of you halfhumans that have lost the freedom . ciao
By sad&true 1148565738 Reply Spam [-1] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveYou are saying that the Quran says kill all non-muslims. And where did you get that from ?! ... There's nothing like that in the Quran.
Muslims and christians are living together peacefully since the dawn of Islam. when the muslims took control of the Holy Land, they didn't hurt any christian or jew. And they even allowed chrtians and jews to visit Jearusalem from anywhere on earth. Why didn't we kill them ?!
Islam never allowed the killing of an unarmed man (even an unarmed soldier), let alone peaceful people.
Read the comment here by Ionized for the proof.
they are found at prophet of doom.net
You say you're Muslim, but how can you tell anyone its a peaceful religion? I've read a lot of the Quran and its FULL of violence. Sorry to burst your bubble, but Mohammed was a murderer, terroist and pedophile. If that's your "prophet", you need to pick another religion.
Standing up for Islam doesn't make it peaceful any more than standing in a garage makes you a car.
If you claim that you have read "alot of the Quran", and that "it is FULL of violence" then let me infrom you Boonta, that you should learn to read first, because the holy Quran is all about love and devotion. The only anger that you may read is related to God\'s distain of the non-believers, Idol worshipers, and Idol worshipping does not only involve statues but also money, sex, power...any material gain that sets man/woman off their true submission to the One God. If you took the time to understand this book that you claim to have read so much of, you would indeed have seen the light and understood the miricle of what you were reading from. The Quran is a book of law, the word of God...do your research!
By cz1970 1140300936 Reply Spam [-1] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveHey everyone, here is a fun fact..Guess how you get rid of your wife, Muslim style..You go up to her with two of your friends and say, " I devorce you, I devorce you, I devorce you." Man, thats one way to get er done. Real love there people..Great way to let the wife stand up for herself...nice religion...Oh, and if you're wondering where i found that, it's in the koran just like everything else that is evil and useless.
By champ12 1140397133 Reply Spam [+2] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveObviously uve spent too long in front of the computer and ur glasses are thicker than ur brain. You've been brainwashed by the media hehehe.
By Sir Moxville 1140297909 Reply Spam [-1] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removethem around the world are rioting, going crazy and generally acting like animals at this very moment. Moderate Muslims rarely are heard to forcefully condemn the fanatic and violent followers of Islam and seem to be either afraid or simply too small a group. The world largely hears from and sees only these crazy fanatics and until you do something to change that, you will all be regarded with hatred and disdain
By XS 1140193115 Reply Spam [+1] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removeevery religion is bad if u follow it to an extreme
By lakers8 1140259341 Reply Spam [+2] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveThese people are not considered as muslims and they have NOTHING to do with islam .. this is NOT what our "Quraan" tells us to do and it`s not part of our relgion to burn or destroy places or kill innocent people .. we feel really sad when these people claim that they are muslims .. they are NOT us NOT us !!
when u said "moderate muslims" .. moderate muslims are actually the actual real muslims whom u never heard of on TV cuz they only focus on these animals (as u call them) who are undercover as muslims
Problem with press is that when those people who claim to be muslims (or even other people ) do stupid stuff make big news out of it !! Don`t u agree ?
people who u call "moderate muslims" do talk !! and we are alot and not afraid to tell these people that they have nothing to do with islam but does the press care ? no .. do people who hate islam care ? no .. everybody concentrates on the bad news and news spread .. i don`t blame these people who say that they hate islam .. i blame whoever showed them the wrong picture of islam
^___^ peace
The fact is that there are thousands of Muslims - yes, that's what they are, not simply poseurs - burning flags and destroying buildings around the world, screaming for death to "infidels" and preaching hatred and jihad. Contrary to what you state, it has everything to do with Islam as they claim to be carrying out the dictates of the Koran, Allah and your prophets. Only today, a prominient group of Pakistani imams announced a $1 million reward for the person who murders the Danish cartoonist, saying "This is a unanimous decision by all imams of Islam that whoever insults the prophet deserves to be killed and whoever will take this insulting man to his end will get this prize".
By XS 1140205920 Reply Spam [+2] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveGreat point XS...now the Muslims are offering prizes for killing...Gosh, that only fuels them to go out and kill more....Exactly what is found in the Koran.
By champ12 1140208308 Reply Spam [-1] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removeif you read it you'll find out---but then again u have to have a brain to understand it.
By Sir Moxville 1140299397 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveFirst of all .. i agree with u .. i don`t blame it all on the press
about what Jihad means : Jihad is NOT killing innocent people and blowing up non muslim countries (and for ur information, they did blow up some places in muslim countries)
Jihad is NOT killing non-muslim people
Jihad is willing to die for the sake of islam BUT if there was a WAR between muslims and people who hate islam attacking them .. it`s DEFENDING ur relgion ... u all would die for the sake of ur relgion if there was a war and people who want to destroy it ,wouldn`t u ??
But there is no war now !! and hopefully there won`t be but i just wanted to explain what "jihad" means ..
maybe these people are so stupid that they thought that killing a non muslim for no reason takes them straight to heaven !! i don`t know how these people think but all i know is that "Jihad" was mentioned in Quraan only to protect NOT attack or start a fight
And about Quraan mentioning something about "destroying infidels" ?? it`s not true !! infact .. the only time the word "destroy" appeared in Quraan was about : ( NOT destorying churches and the places where Jewish people pray) ... that was the only time the word "destroy" was in Quraan .. Quraan and our Prophet teach us to respect other people and never destroy their sacred places .. i respect u all and i would never hurt u by anyhow and all the real muslims feel that way toward u as well
About that guy who would offer $1,000,000 reward for whoever murders the Danish cartoonist is a BIG lier if he said that was a unanimous decision by all imams of islam because the real imams of islam are on TV everyday begging those people to stop making islam look bad and to stop asking for our prophet`s rights in a disrespectful way .. and that all we want is an apology not killing the guy ! but these who claim that they`re muslims are out of control !! We are trying over here to let them know what real islam is but there`s no use .. it`s like that they made a new islam for themselves !
In my country and also other islamic countries, if they ever catch these people they would go straight to jail .. when i read my Quraan, i read it correctly and i do what Quraan and my prophet teaches me .. all we want is peace just like u do
"Fight those who do not believe in Allah...And the Jews say Ezra is the son of God; and the Christians say Christ is the son of God; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; Allah's curse be on them; how they are turned away!" (Koran 9:29-30)
And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah (8:39)
When the sacred months have passed away, THEN SLAY THE IDOLATERS WHEREVER YOU FIND THEM, AND TAKE THEM CAPTIVES AND BESIEGE THEM AND LIE IN WAIT FOR THEM IN EVERY AMBUSH, then if they repent and keep up prayer [become believers] and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them (9:5)
I WILL CAST TERROR INTO THE HEARTS OF THOSE WHO DISBELIEVE. THEREFORE STRIKE OFF THEIR HEADS AND STRIKE OFF EVERY FINGERTIP OF THEM. THIS IS BECAUSE THEY ACTED ADVERSELY TO ALLAH AND HIS MESSENGER; AND WHOEVER ACTS ADVERSELY TO ALLAH AND HIS MESSENGER - THEN SURELY ALLAH IS SEVERE IN REQUITING (EVIL). THIS - TASTE IT, AND (KNOW) THAT FOR THE UNBELIEVERS IS THE PUNISHMENT OF FIRE. O you who believe! When you meet those who disbelieve marching for war, then turn not your backs to them. And whoever shall turn his back to them on that day - unless he turn aside for the sake of fighting or withdraws to a company - then he, indeed, becomes deserving of Allah's wrath, and his abode is hell; and an evil destination shall it be. So you did not slay them, but it was Allah Who slew them and you did not smite when you smote (the enemy) but it was Allah Who smote, and that He might confer upon the believers a good gift from Himself; (8:12-17)
How do you read this to mean Islam preaches peace just like everyone else???
u got it all wrong .. i really apreciate that u r indeed are interested and reading Quraan but this is not our Quraan !! it`s either someone has played with the words or traslated Quraan wrong .. i`m gonna look for a trusted site that answers all ur Quraan explanation better than i do because i`m not an "imam" or an expert , i`m just a muslim girl defending my relgion because WE ARE PEACEFUL PEOPLE ..
we would never fight those who do not believe in allah unless they attacked us
these people are terrorists .. not only to non muslims but also to us muslims , how do u explain them blowing up our countries as well ?? these are no muslims and Quraan never said anything about killing or taking them captives whenever we see them .. NO !
this is not islam u r talking about , not my islam and not
That you believe in the Quraan and all it teaches and then have the guts to say, "oh, but thats not out Quraan" what the hell does that mean? There is only one Quraan and if thats what it says and you say you believe in it and thats you, that the muslim religion and it just shows how messed up it really is. Those qoutes were taken directly from the Quraan...How can you argue that "thats not right and it dosent say anything about killing infidels etc..." Sounds like someone dosent actually know their religion like they say. Good argument dcb
By champ12 1140396452 Reply Spam [+2] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveIt's a common criticism within the church that some Christians adhere only to those parts of the bible that suit their lifestyle and ignore the parts that are inconvenient. It seems the reverse could be true of Islam where the fundamental message is unpalatable and needs to be watered down or selectively disregarded by Muslims genuinely trying to live Godly lives.
The Koran says what it says and therefore Islam is what it is - regardless of how peaceable the intentions of those loyal to it.
by the way its quran
By @cat 1143506893 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveMaria: I think you're wasting your time trying to explain anything to this person. Anyone who would hate all Muslims bacause of what a small percentage of self proclaimed muslims or terrorist do are no better than the people they hate.
I have been to numerous Muslim countries and find the people to be quite nice. They didn't give me any guff about my religeon and I returned the favor.
Basically, people are people. Most are genuinely good but there are a small percentage of idiots out there, from all religeons. These idiots no more represent who you are than Jimmy Swaggart , Jim Baker or Jim Jones represent who I am.
Take care
Ur the first. Thank you for clearing this out to ignorent people who dont understand.
By Mulim 4 life 1163845510 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveWhen was the last time an American Bombed buildings and killed thousands, destroying innocent people? Its good to see you backing those monsters up...Good one.
By champ12 1140396780 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveI know America would never intentionally bomb or harm innocent people and don't understand where you got the idea I was sticking up for terrorist.
When I wrote Maria I specifically mentioned support for Muslims not terrorist. There is a difference between a muslim and a terrorist. Of course there are muslims who are terrorist but then again there are black people who steal and murder. Does that mean all black people are murderers and thieves? I don't think so.
The point I was making is that because someone is a muslim does not make them bad, evil and certainly not a terrorist. It simply means they worship their God a different way and have a right to do so just like everyone else Certainly we enter a new situation when their beliefs or interpretation of their beliefs lead them to these acts of violence.
I hate terrorists as much if not more than anyone else. Like many, I lost some good friends and co-workers when the pentagon was hit and many more have died on the ground in Iraq Afghanistan and the embassy bombings in Africa. I wish I could change that but the fact is, it happened.
That doesn't change the fact that there are good, peaceful Muslims in that region and throughout the world. I've been there (Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan and Iraq) and have seen first hand the hell these people lived and are currently living with. Unfortunately, they are overshadowed by the assholes that get the press. Fortunately, the press also catches the fact that these terrorist are murdering their own "Muslim" brothers. Most notable are the car bombs near police recruiting station and the murders of unarmed Iraqi police officers and soldiers.
I understood from your earlier comments that you too believe there's a difference, Did I miss something?
Thank u again for supporting us Muslims. There is a difference there are terrorists out there under the name of Islam. These people are not muslims they dont deserve to b muslims. WE the muslims are told by our prophet to only Defend not attack. These people who hurt the innocent have nothing to do with Islam. Im an Arab american so i know wat im talking about.
By Mulim 4 life 1163845812 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removewas directed toward champ12
By panthersfootball 1163252815 Reply Spam [-1] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveAmericans killed 100000 children in iraq.
By suck my 1154789820 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removelooks like your an ass
By @cat 1143506697 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveThe comment below was addressed incorrectly. It should have read "Hey Champ" vice XS.
I stand by my statements and look froward to your reply
Hey the question is when the fuk did they not fuking bomb us. Shut the fuk up ass hole. Ur own country bombed it self and put the blame on Osama bin ladin WHICH BTW was AT THE TIME being treate din an american hospital. So 1) fuk u 2) USA supports Isral 3) Isral bombs and kills us and our children so u tell me who are the monsters here?
By Mulim 4 life 1163845652 Reply Spam [-1] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveYou father and brother would join in those riots but maybe you and your family are not in those countries.
By Elisha Cuthbert 1140214734 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveAnd don't even act like you do not like violence. The way you talk with such "eloquence", you probably beat your girlfriend and then tell her to go make you a sandwich.
By zippo312x 1140242168 Reply Spam [+1] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveMaria, Do you believe in the Koran and everything it teaches?
By champ12 1140193082 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Remove7abeebti those bikoono shiite u cannot just call them like that, they are part of muslims.
2nd ims ure u would go to the army to defend your country, so whats wrong if defending your religion in the name of God or "Ällah"
Peace, Maria.
By Crushhh 1140215375 Reply Spam [-1] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removejust can't see why the muslim world are willing to die for their religion. The only thing that islam has given to the people is corrupt leaders wich distort the minds of the poor and uneducated. . That nutjob in Iran is supposed to be the one which takes it's country out of the brink of economic collapse but i'ts just taking their people deep into a S**t hole. And know they got people killed for a stuped cartoon that FREE PRESS has given us the right to do whatever we want. freaking morons!
By cpl. gordon 1140183824 Reply Spam [+3] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveMassive corruption in all political parties and government, very little employment or opportunity, little or no income, no real education being provided - just religious indoctrination in madrassahs. Just prior to 9/11, the country was largely regarded as a pariah in the West and hated by India as it encouraged attacks there and in Kashmir and it was on the verge of financial and political collapse. After 9/11, they decided to oppose terrorism, at least in principle, and benefitted substantially as a result. The ignorant and impoverished masses felt insulted by the Danish cartoons but by now it is clear that this is just an excuse for them to vent their anger and frustration with their lives under Musharraf and Islam.
By XS 1140113355 Reply Spam [+3] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveI don't know why the free world doesn't join the war these morons are already fighting. They don't allow other religions in many of their countries yet expect people to expect their religion in our countries?
Is there anyone that has not figured out what the next big war is going to be over?
Let these crazy idiots get a nuke and it's really going to hit the fan. Sure they might take out a million or so free people but the response will be to turn their country into a sheet of glass.
Let's pray the free world finally develops technology to get us all off oil so these people can go back to the middle ages where they belong.
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By justfortimd 1140186189 Reply Spam [-1] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveTake over the world? Never, just because of all of the negative factors you described. Corruption, no education, unemployment and fanatical religious hypothesis shall redundantly undermine any formal organization. The question in my mind is do you pity them, or hate them? Rather a thin line!
By whiskered mollusk 1140137392 Reply Spam [+2] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveF**k QUARAN, make your allah die in hell
He DOESN"T EXIST
HOPE THEY DESTROY THEIR WHOLE MIDDLE EASTERN WITH EACH CONTROVERSY ABOUT THEIR GOD
IT"S THEIR OWN FREAKING COUNTRY THEY BURN DOWN, etc
.... between Muslims in this century and Christian in previous centuries? Answer. A very small number of Muslims have commited acts of murder that have outraged people where as Christian armys murdered thousands upon thousands during holy crusades and invasions upon Muslim lands. Muslims have got a long long way to go before they even touch the christians for acts of evil. (ps. I`m not Muslim. I`m a white european)
By MrAndy 1151625229 Reply Spam [+1] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveDemocracy
There's no escape.
The big pricks are out.
They'll F**k everything in sight.
Watch your back.
Harold Pinter Februrary 2003
Stupid people they live like animals, never did any good to the world, if it wasn´t other nations they wuold live in a cave. You all need the crusades again, europe will teach you all manners, animals
By ASSASSINO 1140391539 Reply Spam [+1] Moderate Up Moderate Down Remove"never did any good to the world"...what you know today comes from this region. Science, medecine, philosophy, art blossomed out of this area, and specifically from the Arabs and persians while you were in the dark ages...Know your history. Every civilization goes through its natural cycles of rize and fall, as your time will once again come along. I am certain you will not want some ignorant S**t saying that your people never did any good to the world.
Man is weighed by his level of knowledge and ability to think, so go back, learn and then make educated comments that won't make you look like the ignorant S**t that you are.
The Qur'an commands Muslims to stick up for themselves in a defensive battle -- i.e. if an enemy army attacks, then Muslims are to fight against that army until they stop their aggression. All of the verses that speak about fighting/war in the Qur'an are in this context.
There are some specific verses that are very often "snipped" out of context, either by those trying to malign the faith, or by misguided Muslims themselves who wish to justify their aggressive tactics.
For example, one verse (in its snipped version) reads: "slay them wherever you catch them" (Qur'an 2:191). But who is this referring to? Who are "they" that this verse discusses? The preceding and following verses give the correct context:
"Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loves not transgressors.
And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who suppress faith. But if they cease, God is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful. And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevails justice and faith in God; but if they cease, let there be no hostility except to those who practise oppression" (2:190-193).
It is clear from the context that these verses are discussing a defensive war, when a Muslim community is attacked without reason, oppressed and prevented from practicing their faith. In these circumstances, permission is given to fight back -- but even then Muslims are instructed not to transgress limits, and to cease fighting as soon as the attacker gives up. Even in these circumstances, Muslim are only to fight directly against those who are attacking them, not innocent bystanders or non-combatants.
Another similar verse can be found in chapter 9, verse 5 -- which in its snipped, out of context version could read: "fight and slay the pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war)." Again, the preceding and following verses give the context.
This verse was revealed during a historical period when the small Muslim community had entered into treaties with neighboring tribes (Jewish, Christian, and pagan). Several of the pagan tribes had violated the terms of their treaty, secretly aiding an enemy attack against the Muslim community. The verse directly before this one instructs the Muslims to continue to honor treaties with anyone who has not since betrayed them, because fulfilling agreements is considered a righteous action. Then the verse continues, that those who have violated the terms of the treaty have declared war, so fight them... (as quoted above).
Directly after this permission to fight, the same verse continues, "but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular chari
The Qur'an commands Muslims to stick up for themselves in a defensive battle -- i.e. if an enemy army attacks, then Muslims are to fight against that army until they stop their aggression. All of the verses that speak about fighting/war in the Qur'an are in this context.
There are some specific verses that are very often "snipped" out of context, either by those trying to malign the faith, or by misguided Muslims themselves who wish to justify their aggressive tactics.
For example, one verse (in its snipped version) reads: "slay them wherever you catch them" (Qur'an 2:191). But who is this referring to? Who are "they" that this verse discusses? The preceding and following verses give the correct context:
"Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loves not transgressors.
There are some specific verses that are very often "snipped" out of context, either by those trying to malign the faith, or by misguided Muslims themselves who wish to justify their aggressive tactics.
For example, one verse (in its snipped version) reads: "slay them wherever you catch them" (Qur'an 2:191). But who is this referring to? Who are "they" that this verse discusses? The preceding and following verses give the correct context:
"Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loves not transgressors.
And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who suppress faith. But if they cease, God is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful. And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevails justice and faith in God; but if they cease, let there be no hostility except to those who practise oppression" (2:190-193).
It is clear from the context that these verses are discussing a defensive war, when a Muslim community is attacked without reason, oppressed and prevented from practicing their faith. In these circumstances, permission is given to fight back -- but even then Muslims are instructed not to transgress limits, and to cease fighting as soon as the attacker gives up. Even in these circumstances, Muslim are only to fight directly against those who are attacking them, not innocent bystanders or non-combatants.
Another similar verse can be found in chapter 9, verse 5 -- which in its snipped, out of context version could read: "fight and slay the pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war)." Again, the preceding and following verses give the context.
This verse was revealed during a historical period when the small Muslim community had entered into treaties with neighboring tribes (Jewish, Christian, and pagan). Several of the pagan tribes had violate
Judaism was before , and the fact is that the F**king T**ts that are all like "behead infidels" are going to rot in hell, as the supposed "infidels (normal people)" are offending them. HOW THE F**k ARE WE OFFENDING THEM??? It was a F**king cartoon!!! I am not judging this on all of the islamic faith, as I know that by Islam law, they are not allowed to harm innocent people, not even trees. Those T**ts offended by a F**king cartoon are odd wankers, and obviously do not have a concept about life, fuckng pricks. Long life the Infidels!!!
By darthufu 1158090953 Reply Spam [+2] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removeyo jonny wassup vaughan
By darthufu 1158091663 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removethese a-rabic team are slightly odd
By darthufu 1158091695 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removeby at least 1,000 years and the Jewish religion by over 4,000 years?
By XS 1140587224 Reply Spam [+2] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removetechnically all of those relgions is islam.. ibrahim was muslim moses was muslim jesus was muslim but why? lets not judge to quick and look at the meaning of islam... islam means to submit to the will of god... so in that text the sun and moon ar muslims the pplanets and stars r all muslims... the trees and animals are but.... muslims bcus y they obey what god tells them to do. islam has other meaning arabic is a confusing language 4 those who dont know it and arnt versed well... but when it is studied and perfected to the last bit it is very strong and poetic and beautiful... by far the best language... and if u dont think so do some intense research and it is sure to be proven correct
By fh12345679 1153443137 Reply Spam [-2] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removethere was only one religion ISLAM (MEANS PEACE), but your priests made it different for their own interests , and they changed with jews , and christian , because the wanted money and privileges . And before you talk about violence remember your crussaders that wanted money and lands .
By the way stop praying to stones and woods thay can not help theirselves , imagine what they have to give yoU. Open the hearts that God gave to you
If islam means peace, why are some islams bombing us?
oooooooooo
You got told
Prick, it was a cartoon
the terms of their treaty, secretly aiding an enemy attack against the Muslim community. The verse directly before this one instructs the Muslims to continue to honor treaties with anyone who has not since betrayed them, because fulfilling agreements is considered a righteous action. Then the verse continues, that those who have violated the terms of the treaty have declared war, so fight them... (as quoted above).
Directly after this permission to fight, the same verse continues, "but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them... for God is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful." The subsequent verses instruct the Muslims to grant asylum to any member of the pagan tribe/army who asks for it, and again reminds that "as long as these stand true to you, stand ye true to them: for God loves the righteous."
Any verse that is quoted out of context misses the whole point of the message of the Qur'an. Nowhere in the Qur'an can be found support for indiscriminate slaughter, the killing of non-combatants, or murder of innocent persons in 'payback' for another people's alleged crimes.
The Islamic teachings on this subject can be summed up in the following verses (Qur'an 60:7-8):
"It may be that God will grant love (and friendship) between you and those whom ye (now) hold as enemies. For God has power (over all things), and God is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
God does not forbid you, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for God loves those who are just."
“You do not do evil to those who do evil to you, but you deal with them with forgiveness and kindness.†(Sahih Al-Bukhari)
Muslims should follow the example of Prophet Muhammad (peace be on him), even in the worst of circumstances. Do not react violently as a reaction to devilish cartoons. Islam is a message for the salvation of humanity! Don't let the evil mongers distract us from our mission given to us by the Almighty God, the Most High and Prophet Muhammad (peace be on him). Be proactive, not reactive!
The real truth is that the cartoons stereotype Muslims as the followers of a Prophet who condones suicide bombings and terrorism. Such stereotyping always leads to catastrophic consequences for the stereotyped community as we have seen in the case of Native Americans, African Americans, Jews and now Muslims.
The double standards of the Danish (and Western) newspapers:
They had refused to run cartoons derogatory of Jesus (peace be on him) (rightly so) and on the holocaust (rightly so). They should show the same sensitivity to the Muslims especially in the backdrop of growing Islamophobia
Remmember tsunami last year. It was known well by Indonesian who live in Aceh, North Sumatera where the epicenter of the eartquake that two days before the tsunami there was a pastor beheaded by some muslim extrimist and they threw his head to Indian Ocean. Two days later the tsunami happened which we all believe that God is in control , not them. Will they take over the world? God will not let us. I beleieve that anti christ has born some where in eastern europe. He could be one of those muslim extrimist. but please refer to the Holy Bible in Revelation It scares me......
By numlocks99 1140213169 Reply Spam [+1] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveIs it true that jihad, if you killed people for your religion you will awarded by asa many girls as people that you killed. and you can have sex with them? is it true that is allowed by Al Quran that you can kill people to defend your religion? is it true that you can have epople beheaded for your God? ANSWER PLEASE
By numlocks99 1140212400 Reply Spam [+1] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveIt's a huge mis understanding . In islam, those who die at war are special, that is most of their sins are forgiven, not in getting those afterlife women :S
But not in any war. only in a war that is declared by the government in order to prevent evil on the people of the nation or defend ones country if it was invaded. So it doesn't apply on the terrorists who kill inocent people. i.e, killing journalists and so in Iraq = Very bad, killing soldiers = that's what happens in wars you know. soldiers die. It is an invasion no matter what else you call it.
As for the anti-christ, according to our believes it'll be very obvious to everyone when he comes, and Jesus (PBUH) will save the people from him. and that's when the christians will know he was not crucified, and that Islam is God's religon.
I don't know about what the bible says about it though. I'll be glad if you tell us.
As for the negative comments i will get for this post, I don't care what they will say already :). That's what i believe. like it or not.
Sorry if I'm not quite getting this the first time. Are you saying:
Jesus wasn't crucified?
Jesus is dead?
Jesus will save the world from the Antichrist?
Thanks.
Jesus was not crucified, he elavated to heaven (alive) before getting caught. and is still there and will come back before the end of time. (i know atheists are lol now :), maybe everyone else too ).
It's always good to understand why others believe what they do. I wouldn't worship Jesus either if I thought that. No one's laughing at you mate.
Atheists need to laugh hard and often, while they still can.
here's a paragraph from wikipedia:
http:// en .wikipedia .org /wiki/ Jesus
In Islam, Jesus (called Isa) is considered one of God's most beloved and important prophets, a bringer of divine scripture, and also the Messiah. Muslims, however, do not share the Christian belief in the crucifixion or divinity of Jesus. Islam teaches that Jesus is alive in heaven and will return to the earth as Messiah in the company of the Mahdi once it has become full of sin and injustice.
This is totally not true
We only kill in war .. just like all of u do if ur religion or country was attacked, and hopefully there won`t be any
peace ^___^
Guys guys come on let's stop for a minute and think about this. Let's not paint everybody in one color.
By happy go lucky 1140198307 Reply Spam [+1] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveGOD didn't create human. God does not exists. So why the F**k are you defending for a person, who just teach us to be a good person. And nobody visited this site is a good person.
F**k YOU ALL....
all should be left lone so they can figure out their differences....
By lethal s 1207962089 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removeislam is bad and there type is just to kill poeple and to support jihads right!! and have you ever heared there was or there is anyone who is called Christens have a problem with anything like terrorism huh??? now think of it if you really have the love of God or the love of allah.
By bnphillips2010 1200237339 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveIslam is a religion of peace, and if you don't believe it they'll kill you.
By Rachdingue 1188260431 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveThe islamofascist ideology is more hateful, brutal and dangerous than anything we've seen in over 60 years, they are attacking the entire planet, killing innocents in the whole world, muslims included and then in the West they hide behind anti-racism laws or arguments cynically while they continue to spread their cancer.
By Rachdingue 1188260268 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removesave the inocents.... ih they exist
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By Good Guy 100 1164251296 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveF**k people!!!! Get F**king over it.
By Good Guy 100 1164251280 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveThese idiots (activists for a Theocatic state) aren't any different that the ones who want to ban choice, teach "intellegent design" as science, or killed millions in the name of God.
By Mr. Bill 1141085717 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveXS. I see what you're saying but there is a slight difference when saying there is a such as peaceful Muslims. Perhaps that is true. However, did you know that some of the 9/11 Terrorists were these so called "peaceful Muslims"?? THey were living in the USA just like ordinary citizens and then one day they decide to bomb our buildings and kill thousands. Is that what a peaceful Muslim is? The fact is that all Muslims believe firmly in the Koran, just the same as I believe firmly in the Bible. However, the Bible does not fuel its people to hate and kill for the love of Allah/Muhammed. That is the difference. I noticed you gave the example of black people killing people other black people. Dude, stuff like that happens every day..You think their religion told them to go out and do that? White people kill other people too..ok, whats your point? My point is that Muslims target non-Muslims and have a specific hatred towards them. I don't think any Muslims can be considered Peaceful in the true sense of the word as long as they believe in the Quraan.
By champ12 1140450443 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveI didn't make any reference to blacks and whites. As for Muslims, I was merely responding to some of the fools who simply accuse everyone of calling all Muslims terrorists rather than answering the legitimate questions being raised about the fact that today, fanatic Muslims are in fact the ones carrying out suicide bombings, murdering innocent civilians and preaching hatred against other religions and non-Muslims whom they (and the Koran) call "infidels", all of which they claim to be doing in service to their god, Allah, the Koran, and Islam. .
By XS 1140466214 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removei agree with what you say, but not zippo
By champ12 1140468871 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Remove.
By zippo312x 1140587880 Reply Spam [-1] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveIs the world really ready for Globalism and Free Trade? Change is hard. When does defending your beliefs and morals become intolerance and bigotry / predujice? When will I learn how to spell?
As we become a global economy we face many challenges and perhaps the biggest challenges will be social change.
God be with us all.
Make Earth population 5 million, and we all will live happily ever after
By Maksim 1140275455 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveSEW up 90% of the world's P***ys !
By Silver Palm Trees 1140564896 Reply Spam [+1] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveIn a country of 160 million of 10, 000 are extremist...... that is less than .01 percent or less..but funny the whole world will say 10,000 extremist but NOT 159,99999 million moderates? Last time I heard on bbc that they were paid 200 rupes to cause chaos and undermine the moderate goverment body. Interesting.
By jackie boy 1140246129 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removeislam means peace in arabic-and in arabic they greet eachother with salaamu alaikum-so meaning peace be upon u--the whole religion means peace-for everybody,not only for muslims--islam means peace for whole mankind--think ppl think for once in ur life--and dont spread hate between one another---but non muslims dont have 2 afraid of religion war with muslims,u kno why-cuz the muslim countries dont support these fanatics,thats how i call them cuz they dont count as muslims,,for example-if a soccer team plays bad,is soccer than a bad sport..? i mean come on--be fair-and instead of pointing the finger by just watching and hearin what u see on tv--look up what islam is about and ask muslims that u know about islam,,(not fanatics) ppl that go to mosks and only are here to obey their god,and not to destroy and blow up whatever they see--these are ppl with no knowledge--AT ALL''..knowledge is expensive u have to do effort 2 seek it-it doesnt look for u,and these ppl obviously didnt do any effort 2 know about their religion and about their prophet,,thats why islam is in this condition--i just wanna finish with this: i am a muslim myself,my name is mohamed--named 2 the prophet--i just ask all of u to understand the muslim point of view these days,and try 2 understand that we dont want harm,but love and respect---thats all
By ohplzz 1140228602 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removein arabic-so how can a religion that has the name of peace mean harm 2 ppl,..come on ppl think--THINK for once in ur life,and dont follow-
By ohplzz 1140227786 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removehas a Ferrari decal on the widscreen. Doesn't make it so.
In fact it only serves to attract ridicule.
Think about that.
Yeah, submission, as in slavery and lack of freedom and liberty, the complete opposite of our own ideal.
By Rachdingue 1188260366 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Remove.
By matook 1140208341 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveTo see how much HE is adored by these (*#!%&*!) HOLY MUSLIMS! I am sure Allah will take them directly to PARADISE and reward all of them with an infinite number of virgins to dance the "Seven Veils" for them, for all eternity!
By Silver Palm Trees 1140194100 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removeand is that your idea about God, because muslims believe in the same God.
IS WHEN WE DIE WE DIE! Just plant my carcass under a flower garden and let it nourish the roses! As far as the infinite scARAB virgins dancing the seven veils? Feel free to take my share as well as yours. ("Imagine there's no HEAVEN, I wonder if you can? No HELL below us, ABOVE US ONLY SKY!)
By Silver Palm Trees 1140530753 Reply Spam [+1] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveAnd then imagine if there is and you haven't done anything about it.
If only John Lennon could come back from the dead and write a follow up. He might call it "Actually".
That I made to TMThEMaN; leading a good moral life IS "doing something about it!" FOR THE RIGHT REASONS!
By Silver Palm Trees 1140613530 Reply Spam [+1] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removei will imagine that There's only one God who created earth, heaven and hell. And i will imagine that there will be a day where people will be held accountable for what they did in their lifes.
I will imagine when God will tell the wrongdoers who gave them the right to fight each other for Money, Claimed-beliefs and power.
And you can imagine whatever you want.
Can you imagine that there are many people, who, despite having no "supernatural beliefs," LEAD VERY GOOD VERY MORAL, RESPECTABLE LIVES? Not for FEAR of RETRIBUTION in some AFTERLIFE or future "INCARNATION," not because some "religious leader" (usually some ASEXUAL MISFIT wearing a fancy gown) has indoctrinated them, and struck fear in their hearts, but because MANY OF US find immense, genuine satisfaction and take pride in being good human beings and by doing what is right? If there really will be a "final judgement" I will neither be embarrassed nor ashamed of my stay on this magnificent planet.
By Silver Palm Trees 1140613261 Reply Spam [+1] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removewhich gives them power over the scared, ignorant, uneducated, and uninformed. And I am NOT just speaking of Islam. The Catholoc church has been doing FAR worse than Muslims ever have or ever will do.
By Eric4x4 1140181774 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removereligion is an instrument for dominate the people
too many countries, including the USA, or as an exemple poland in europe are on a dangerous way towards religious fanatism
are the worst aspect of life on earth!
By Silver Palm Trees 1140786077 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveAll Muslims should stand up to there faith and condom the radicl
fantantics. That ARE telling the world that they all are nasty fantics.
TELL THE WORLD THAT YOU AS A MUSLIM YOU DO NOT
SEE IT THERE WAY.
These cartoons have been appearing in many newspapers, regardless for how 1.3 Billion Muslims around the world feel about it.
The definition of freedom is to freely express your thoughts, ideas, and opinion, but it should be without crossing and stepping over other people’s rights and freedoms.
The posted cartoons strangely enough were published in many countries with the awareness that Muslims all around the world find it offensive.
There’s no artistic point or a message the cartoons are conveying besides increasing “rubbing it in the face†of Muslims and saying out loud “Anyone can offend your beliefs and religion on public newspaperâ€Â.
Why would anyone call themselves “Civilized
I can tell u better than every one else as i am from Islamabad and initially belong to Lahore. This is a sad incidance resulting from even more condenmable deed of some evil minded Denish. The people demonstrating there are some young boys of schools whom some agencies have used for some hidden objectives. The protest was peaceful as we know its no way to protest by burning one's own home. But in fact some political move seems to be there which triggered the young guys to a violent move. Here i would like to clarify that the Densih Govt. has made an intentional mistake which would definitely broaden the gaps between the muslims and others and would also endanger the peace process. I personally think that the people behind this are enemies of a peaceful world and deserve severe punishment (even sentence of death)
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