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- Updated: 24-Jul-07
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Should Count This One
- More simple than everyone thinks
The rule is that you cannot encroach on the keeper once he/she has control of the ball (i.e. in his/her arms, footwork/control doesn't count, obviously), and cannot obstruct the keeper from punting it out... if the striker is stationary and the keeper is dumb enough to waltz up and kick the ball into him, then it is fair game... but you can't run up to steal the ball from the keeper once he/she has control.
By beigusmcf 1149916711 Reply Spam [+1] Moderate Up Moderate Down Remove
it doesn't matter how high his kick is, or even if he used his head. none of those are factors because they do not address the rule that is being broken.
This is not a cardable offense. It is not a "dangerous play." It just becomes a free kick opportunity.
And if everyone would stop with the flaming, there would be far fewer comments on this video.1478142- 0
- LOL U REALLY DONT UNDERSTAND FOOTBALL
THE RULE OF BEIN 10 FEET FROM THE KEEPER WAS ONLY INTRODUCED AT TEH END OF THE 2005 SEESON AND NO EARLER... BY THE LOOK OF THIS VIDEO IT WAS DATED A BIT BEFORE THAT WHAT YOU THINK.. TEH REASON FOR THE FOUL OF THIS IS BECAUSE THE REF CAN CHOSE WHAT HE PLAYS WITH THIS RULE... IT IS THE REFS DECISION WETHER HE GIVES THIS GOAL OR NOT ...
By TREKZ_BOI 1173044423 Reply Spam [-1] Moderate Up Moderate Down Remove2528939 - 1
It wasn´t goal it doesnt matter if you get out or not of the area but to be goal you should take out the ball from the goalkeeper with the head or something else you cannot rise your leg to 90° from your body or more, because it will count as a dangerous play, and to all those people who insuteld and everything and telling that he should have a card... Dangerous Play = No Card at all!
I am not from US (not american because they are not AMERICANS we all from America are Americans so please stop calling them that F**king Gringos!)
i am 100% Mexican and I know so much about football! And I've done and seen goals like that but the ball taken out from the goalkeeper with the head or with the chest, witouth touching him, and without having to leave the area, that counted.
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- I'm afraid...
...you're wrong, but I say it with all respect. Close, but that's not the point. The only reason this goal didn't count is that there's a rule which says you can't interrupt a goalkeeper's clearance, you have to wait until he whether drops the ball to the floor, passes the ball to another player or he clears it.
By Juananz 1151999059 Reply Spam [+1] Moderate Up Moderate Down Remove
If he has already started his move to clear it away with the foot and you touch it before his foot, that's the same as a foul. It's not that it's a dangerous play, my friend =)1733657 - 1
- Corret
Finnally. someone who knows the damn rules. However try telling that toa play ground full of angry school boys when ur in goal.
By cranro 1152289811 Reply Spam [+1] Moderate Up Moderate Down Remove1728172 - 2
then tell me why when you take the ball out with the head it is counted ;)... (it is counted only when the goalie doesn't have full control of the ball like he is grabing the ball with one hand or it's in the air or he is bouncing* it on the floor... and here he takes it out with the leg (in a dangerous play) and it should've been counted if it wasnt because of the dangerous play because the goalie drops the ball to kick and in that moment he doesn't have full control of the ball
By daynightmare 1152153877 Reply Spam [+1] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveYou may only take the ball from the keeper with the head if he's holding it with one hand, that's the ONLY case. You may not interrupt the clearing move. It's not because of a dangerous play as you say.
A dangerous play is not necesarily any play in which you lift your leg in a 90° angle (many goals wouldn't count if that was the case), but a play in which you lift your leg in that angle and you show your shoe spikes to the opponent (as if you had the intention to injure the other player). In the play he takes the ball with the tip or the upper part of his shoe, so it's not because of a dangerous play. Trust me.
A dangerous play is also signaled when the other player has already the leg lifted to take control of the ball but when another player tries, a moment after, to take it with the head. But in that case the dangerous play is signaled agains the one who tried to head the ball because of the reckless effort.
In this play the goalie has full control of the ball and is preparing to clear it but is interrupted. If the attacker had bounced the ball once the keeper had cleared it (even if it was only a few feet away from the keeper), it would have counted
who gives a fuk. dont start bringing da rule books and all dat S**t nobody cares
By nWo_317 1154171727 Reply Spam [-1] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveWhy did you start reading the comments if you don't care? just to have something to yell an insult at? Man... get a life!!
By Juananz 1154226383 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveI actually wanted to bet that it was suppose to be counted as a goal until you said "you cannot rise your leg to 90° from your body or more, because it will count as a dangerous play", I never knew that and now I have to agree with you, you should take the ball away with your head.
By rus_kid 1149475989 Reply Spam [-1] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveDude it is up to the ref to decide whether it was a dangerous play and dangerous play is if any player (including subs) plays in a manner that is dangerous to anyone from specators and coaches to goalkeepers. The rulebook says "If in the opinion of the referee a player is playing dangerously".
It is a foul though because he is preventing the GK from releasing it from his possesion.
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Dangerous play in this case high footing, high footing is where your leg goes to the height of the other players chest, 90degress lol? you rise your leg higher than 90degrees after a shot, don't be stupid, may have been ruled out because referee did not see the ball leave the keepers both hands.
By Damoss1337 1151297743 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Remove- 0
This guy was obstructing the goalies kick... beautiful? I think this is pretty pathetic. CARD CARD CARD! ps. I ref soccer
By ref 1149879889 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Remove- 0
- Crappy ref
Then you must be a bad ref
By MrSumo 1161389767 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Remove2960028 - 1
if he missed when he was going to boot the ball in the net!!!!
By Tom-Tom 1149157539 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Remove- 0
Sorry to anyone who beleives its a beautiful goal. The fact is; the player who score should of been carded. Its interfering with a boot from a goalie, which is stated in the rules as a foul. And being a profesional player he should of known that so I beleive the referee should of carded him for either a delay of game or a misconduct (making a mockerie of the game)
By Phantom495 1147381913 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Remove- 0
its interfierence in the bix. if he was outside the box when the goalie kicked and some how he got it then. then it would hav counted
By bigmikeyg 1145718561 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Remove- 0
...the rules of football state that when a goalkeeper is taking a kick like that:
The goalkeeper cannot be impeaded because the ball is still classed as being in his hands... even when he has tossed the ball in the air just before kicking it.
These rules were intorduced by FIFA a few years back!
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first of all there are no rules in soccer, there are LAWS. Second of all PJ had it right...it is not a goal it is a fould to obstruct the goalies realease of the ball, also known as shadowing the goalie. It is a mandatory yellow card for that action and the result is a indirect free kick for the a the goalies team. Im a national referee and thats the fact...
By nationalref 1145001172 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Remove- 0
- referees
If you are a ref tell me your definition of the off-side rule... there seems to be so many
By pels10 1145924860 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Remove1074494 - 1
- well
first of all there are no refs in soccer, there are REFEREES
By derekc06 1147214514 Reply Spam [-2] Moderate Up Moderate Down Remove
and the one who posts on metacafe can go F**k himself1140340 - 2
now go F**k yourself
get over yourself... nobody gives a S**t if your a referee
and are you sure it's referee not "official"?... fuckin prick
It should have been a free kick against the keeper even before he kicked the ball. He held the ball for 9 seconds in his hands. the maximum is 6 seconds.
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- i say...
go F**k yourself it was barely over 6... it's from when he has control of the ball... he doesn't have control of the ball until he covers it up and the players leave... from then on it's just over 6 seconds... and it seems like i'm counting fast
By derekc06 1147214434 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Remove
but then again nailing the keepers for going over by 2 seconds everytime when they clearly aren't trying to delay the game or gain an unfair advantage (because that's the obvious reason for the rule) sounds pretty gay to me...
so take your stopwatch... and shove it up your ass1140340 - 1
The counting starts when the goalkeeper stands up. And if everyone wou be so anctious about the rules, imagine how crappy soccer would be
By Robbert 1144953277 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveNowhere in the 6 seconds rule anything is mentioned about standing up. Controlling the ball with his hands is the only criterium for starting the count. Just looking at the confusion about the refs decision not to count this goal, I think it's a good thing to simply know the rules.
Making rules and not use them properly will make football crappy. Then it's better to lose the rule itself. suggestion: start with offside
u cant prevent the keeper from taken a kick like tht so i should not hav stood (i am aware tht i dint stand im just sayin btw)
By zombiebrainedaliens 1144488630 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Remove- 0
To interfere with the goalkeeper distributing the ball is a foul.
After a dozen years of refereeing, I can assure you that what is on the video was NOT a fair goal.
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IS IN THE WORLD CUP BEACUSE CONCACAF PRESIDENT IS FROM THERE, AND MEXICO GAVE THEM A CHANCE AND LOST AGAINST THEM...AND THAT IS THE TRUTH
By thekelo 1143227987 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Remove- 0
The throwing into the air of the ball is still the action of the kick and thus means the keeper his still in possession of the ball. This illegal goal is rightly illegal.
By stu157 1143220861 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Remove- 0
boys wat the hell, how can that be a goal, you guys gotsa get a life because if u new soccer, you know that aint allowed, i am a keeper and several players have dun that and been pulled up, grow a brain numnuts
By Rutho 1143190503 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Remove- 0
Bahrain should not even have been there against T
By KrispNY 1143173487 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Remove- 0
Georgie did the same to Gordon Banks in a game between England and Ireland his was disallowed also
By P.A. 1143159759 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Remove- 0
Read the rules guys.....You cannot interfere with a goal keeper. The ball is not 'in play' until he kicks it! Juvenile stunt to pull. Check the FIFA rules!!!!!!!!! the offical got it RIGHT. full stop.
By TriniCanadian 1143137852 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Remove- 0
That's definitly dangerous play!!! its a fair foul!!
By DrijNu 1143122761 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Remove- 0
poor bahrien peolpe thats was right goal
By MrCoOoL 1143118362 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Remove- 0
- you're wrong....
i agree to the fact that 'stealing' a ball from the hands of a goal kepper just before he is going to kick it is a foul
By d watcher 1143204555 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Remove582425 - 1
sorry mate, you've got the rules wrong. no goal, no matter how bad they wanted it to be, still against the rules.
By TriniCanadian 1143138308 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveTrinidad won the game fairly. The players from Bahrain and the fans were poor sports and ignorant to the FIFA rules.
By trinidadian 1143086202 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Remove- 0
- have some respect
what the F**k is wrong with you, just say that you dont think the goal should've counted, you dont have to insult bahrain fans and players.
By hatem2 1143820775 Reply Spam [+2] Moderate Up Moderate Down Remove906735 - 1
This is something that's happened countless times in English football over the years. The most recent was Thierry Henry. It was disallowed because it is deemed as dangerous play to swing your leg up in front of the keeper as he is kicking - it would be very easy to injure the keeper (look what happened to Luc Nilis when he kicked Richard Wright's foot) The ball clearing the penatly area has NOTHING to do with it, unless it's a dead ball goal kick from the 6-yard box. whichthis wasn't.
By Phip900 1143720610 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveYou said Americans and Football dont mix? Yet in your comment you do not mention 1 American.
By Annonymous 1146876233 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveYou'll get over it little man.
By Phip900 1147104601 Reply Spam [+1] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveI can't beleive that people are even talking about this still. the player should have been carded so all the morons out there that don't know the rules understand that what he did was wrong.
By TriniCanadian 1143138216 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removefor ur information the game wasnt fair enough u didnt c it ,, so F**k u ,, u can judge it,, asshole u and the other idiots over there,, watch what the F**k u r saying or i'll F**k u up like an ass losers
By ford_975 1143155240 Reply Spam [-2] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveAre you saying that you are an ASS F**ker ? Learn to write. You cant even put together a proper sentance. How else would I expect you to understand the FIFA rules when all you know is ASS F**kING !!
By trinidadian 1143392148 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveSentance... you're going to criticize someone for their SENTENCE but mispell the damn word in your own... amazing.
By Loki_XIII 1143693458 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removei agree trinidad and tobago rule but thats not a goal. the player was never out of the box. when goalie has possesion of the ball in his box the other team must clear out but if they dont they can not play the ball until someone else has played it to them
By General Tso's 1143668528 Reply Spam [-2] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removethats on a goal kick (dead ball) knobhead. when its in the keepers hands anyone can stand in the box. as for the goal some refs would of allowed it as once it leaves the keepers hands the ball is back in play, technically meaning anyone can kick the ball.
By G.C 1144485955 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Remove- interfearance with the goal keeper
- and as stated before, the goalkeeper would have to touch it first
correct decision
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- TRINIDAD TO WORLD CUP
This was the decisive game bet Trinidad and Bahrain.Trinidad won because they were obviously the better team and did not have to try anything low and sneaky like the Bahrain team. Trinidad advanced to the world cup and became the smallest country ( population 1.3mil ) to ever do so!!!!!
By trinidadian 1143085582 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Remove744690 - 1
- TRINIDAD FOREVER!!!!!!!!!
Lets show Germany
By TriniCanadian 1143138372 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Remove867833 - 2
- YA'LL NEED TO THANK MEXICO
FOR ALLOWING YOUR COUNTRY MAKE IT TO THE WORLD CUP
By thekelo 1143228219 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Remove642383 - 3
was the starting Goalie forPenn State back in the Day (80s) and said that its a chicken S**t play and that he should be gone or minimum of a yellow card.
By Synergy37 1143078518 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Remove- 0
- YOUR DAD
DONT KNOW S**t ABOUT SOCCER, BACK IN THE 80s? COME ON. LOL
By thekelo 1143228156 Reply Spam [-1] Moderate Up Moderate Down Remove642383 - 1
As much as i like bahrain and wished that they have reached the world cup, but that is not a goal cause the goal keeper didn't kick it yet .... Ronaldinho once did it and got a yellow card for it .... it did happen more that once that the goal keeper kicked it and the player jumps infront of him and scores that a goal ...
By Yoshi7 1143071919 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Remove- 0
This is one of the gratest Good Football history for Bahrain where that is first time the Bahrains get this position.
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- not a goal
under fifa rules this is not a goal. the rule was changed when george best did it to gordon banks of england in the 70's.
By jabbazz 1143074441 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Remove859132 - 1
ronaldinho did this exact play and the goal did count and didn't touch the keeper when the ball went up in the air so this play should count
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You guys aren't right. Here I'll get the rule book I am a referee. Juananz, you're extremely close except for the part where you said you can take the ball with your head if the goalie has the ball in one hand. It is not dangerous play but you could spin it off that way if someone doesn't understand the ruling. Law 12 - Fouls and Misconduct of the 2005 FIFA Laws of the Game states that "an indirect free kick is also awarded to the opposing team if a player, in the opinion of the referee: -prevents the goalkeeper from releasing the ball from his hands"
I have been to a couple referee clinics and they said that the "hands" is another word for the control of the ball. From the point that the goalie gets complete control (puts one hand on the ball, or even one finger but not his feet on the ball, in that case he is treated like a player) of the ball to the point he releases the ball from his control (after kicking / clearing / droping it to the ground) a player cannot interfere with the goalkeeper.
Juananz, when you said taking the ball from the goalie with the head if he has only one hand on the ball is COMPLETELY untrue because that one hand has control and you can't do anything to take the control away from the keeper. I hope you guys don't take this personally and accept the fact that I don't mean any disrespect but I've got the law book with me here so I'm going with it and the opinion of the world class referee's I have talked with. By the way I have received a 91% on my Class 3 Exam if that helps you guys.
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- Hehe
The thing with the head was a response for the other guy since it was allowed here in Mexico for one or two seasons (except when he was wrapping it with the arm), but then it was disabled because of the "control" thing you accurately mentioned. The head thing has nothing to do with the play seen on the video, don't misunderstand the comment. (By the way, I also have the rulebook, hehe =P)
By Juananz 1153979176 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Remove1733657 - 1
that rule even doesnt exist,,,the goal was not counted,,cause the color of the skin of this guy,,how stupid you can be, remember the old saying: let the birds be free,,now what do you think about the guitar profesional???????
By mingo 1154982444 Reply Spam [-1] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removethat was a cheap attempt and gladly didnt count, if ur foot goes above the other persons chest the its ruled as a high kick. the forward is a dipshit
By Soccerkd55 1151451455 Reply Spam [-1] Moderate Up Moderate Down Remove- 0
there's absolutely, positevely nothin wrong at all with that ... keeper didnt have ball in both hands, leg wasnt raised that high, and made no contact whatsoever, could be counter has obstruction but her wasnt in is way or nethin ... it was a referee's mistake for disallowin it at the end of the day coz the keeper cudda jus moved away from the striker ... simple has
By matty_robz 1148690850 Reply Spam [-1] Moderate Up Moderate Down Remove- 0
- Haha
It's wrong. =P
By Juananz 1153979539 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Remove
Mix these two rules (specially the specifications stated in the second one):
-Preventing the goalkeeper from releasing the ball. A player who attempts to prevent the Goalkeeper from putting the ball into play by standing directly in front of the Goalkeeper can be called for breaking this rule or for "unsporting behavior", in which case both a Yellow Card1733657 - 1
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Taking more than six seconds while controlling the ball with his hands before releasing it (releasing it can include throwing it, kicking it or dropping it to the ground and then kicking or dribbling it. Once released, it is "live").
By Juananz 1153979627 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Remove1733657 - 2
Im a woman, im from uruguay and i studied to be a referee. I say i woudnt count that goal. It is dangerous play to kick right in front of the goal keeper, one centimeter and he would've kick his leg.
By letix 1147339194 Reply Spam [-1] Moderate Up Moderate Down Remove- 0
- doesnt matter your comment cause your a ...
remember the women have to shut up whe the male speak,,,please behave,,,,this is not a free outlet,,,or a kitchen,,,think on your pencils
By mingo 1154982555 Reply Spam [-1] Moderate Up Moderate Down Remove1392420 - 1
- Asshole
Oh and this is not Barbarian Village in the 17th century. So if you want to think like that go back to your cave and keep touching yourself because with that attitude i dont see any woman who would wanna touch you with a ten foot pole.
By letix 1155401369 Reply Spam [+1] Moderate Up Moderate Down Remove1196938 - 2
You really should stop thinking with your penis.
By letix 1155357715 Reply Spam [+1] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removethe goal is not a goal not because its S**t to do what he did and he shoudlnt of got booked the foul given was that his foot was high there for it was not really dangerous play. ALSO note, That if they player did the same thing but with his head it WOULD of been a goal the only reason against it was is foot was high i dont need to read the rules so im not changing my opinion but what ive said is fact im not trying to disagree trying to get people to all understand and less of the swearing wen its uncalled for. ALSO Trinadad and Tobago are not going to do anything in the world cup they are there to get a beating! END OF!!
By evil_timpo 1143900435 Reply Spam [-1] Moderate Up Moderate Down Remove- 0
one think u should all know,, if the fifa wants Bahrain team to be in the world cup will have to rematch the game,,
By ford_975 1143154998 Reply Spam [-1] Moderate Up Moderate Down Remove- 0
- Fifa
Hi ford
By Doha - Qatar 1143724689 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Remove
i'm sorry coz bahrain couldnt do it, and the Fifa has nothing to do with it , they have rules and regulations and they just follow them.
Bahrain is a very good team and i hope they will do it again in shaallah585439 - 1
That is some hilarious S**t .
By Confidence 1143141735 Reply Spam [-1] Moderate Up Moderate Down Remove- 0
this is S**t you would do in elementary school ... come on people .... the rule is that the ball must be released into play ... cause S**t like that used to happen and the rule was changed in the 1970`s... an to put an end to it .. we cannot apply people`s national football rules to it.. this was an international game ....
By Josiah 1143114136 Reply Spam [-1] Moderate Up Moderate Down Remove- 0
his foot nearly hits the keepere in the face so no its dangerous play.
By mowy 1145918489 Reply Spam [-2] Moderate Up Moderate Down Remove- 0
It was a dangergerous kick
that means its a free kick from the spot of the foul
and thats what happened
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