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Tuned 730bhp Viper racing against 170bhp busa. Busa is just too fast.
Shoot the camera man? Why? These are not professionals. Cut them a bit of slack you hypercritical twerp. It's a free video. The vehicles cost a lot of money. They are taking a big risk racing on public roads just for our pleasure. Maybe he/she doesn't to want set up a tripod on the side of a busy road. Perhaps it would be obvious to passing police. Maybe the camera person doesn't have much experience. Perhaps it's the rider's or drivers camera and they are not familiar with the zome controls. People like you are a disease on forums that S**k the pleasure out of forums.
perhaps if your mother stuffs up a meal you would shoot her?!
Oh yea, they're just doing all of us a public service. They're on a public road with cars and trucks around them doing 170 . You want to go that fast? Get on a freakin' track so you don't kill somebody's wife, daughter, son or husband! The best thing that could happen to these two idiots is that the cops catch them and grind up their rides at the salvage yard.
By use2do 1196313914yooee sexy..btw check out LiveDona.com for really hot girls
By sexycbabay 1264590529ok i dnot kno how but im sure theres a way to figure in the weight into the horse power and torque cuz the race just dont seem fair to me vipers got a bigger motor more power but the busa prolly isnt even half the weight so if theres a way to figure it out let me kno
By jfarley 1258574323Let's get to the real point: if you're shifting, IT'S NOT A ROLL-ON. What they did was essentially a rolling-start drag race (but starting with a really high rolling-rate).
By psyop1 1226145425it would be cool to see the doge viper against the tomahawk (bike) cause as far as i kno it has a viper engine....its obvious who would win..but would be cool!! and is the busa not faster than the gsxr..simply because the busa is a hpyerbike designed for speed...it also holds most drag races for which it i eligible (or so the magazine im reading rite now says) including the 1350cc record of 252.8mph!!! i think that beats a veyron by .8!!
By dillien 1161899139the most american sport car can do? stupid, good tourqe gut still your vipers S**k , seriosly!
By Ardi_Albanian_guy 1166387033Vipers are S**t All American cars are S**t Europeans laugh at your cars LOL!
By kieran_n22 1188844238I was wondering which particular sports car (or any car built in Albania) can beat a standard Dodge Viper in:
1. Acceleration over 400 meters from a standing start.
2. Acceleration form 70 - 140 mph.
3. Top speed.
4. A lap around Nurburgring.
I was wondering also if you:
1. Have a licence?
2. Have driven any car at all?
3. Have driven any vehicle with more than 100 Kw at the rear wheels?
4. Have driven any car that can exceed 125 mph (200 kph)?
5. Have an I.Q of more than 90?
6. Is older than 12 years of age?
where the F**k did you get Albania from!? I'm from England you dick!
Vipers are a big waste you have an 8.0 or even a 8.3 and can only get 380 BHP from it! That is total crap.
I do have a licence (passed first time) I'm 18 I've probably drove more and faster cars then you in the last 2 years. I'm working at BMW as an apprentice have been working on cars for nearly 4 years now.
And I'm sure an M3 has more then 100KW to the rear wheels. Being a 3.2 with just 60 less BHP but more then half the engine. I've never tested my IQ but don't think because im 18 that I don't know what I'm talking about. I can near enough fix any problem a car has. And I own a BMW 318i.
I don't know how you calculate power but you are ignorant and totally wrong.
100 kw = 135 bhp
60 hp less?
Now that would be 320 hp as you claim the Viper has 380 rwhp. Even your own incorrect figures dont add up!
So if your 318 has 200 hp (148kw) at the rear wheels it still is only 41% of the Viper's rwhp.
The Viper ranges in capacity from 8 litres to 8.4 litres for the latest model.
Do I like the Viper? Not particularly but then I don't put s**t on it because I hate everything American. Which I don't.
Some 18 year olds are very knowledgable. Not you apparently, if indeed you are 18.
The official hp for the base model is 500 hp at the crank. Road and track tested at 12.2 secs for the 1/4. Drag racing calculators using the weight of the car and the time over the 1/4 (400 meters),
show 483 hp at the rear wheels.
There are numerous sites that have tests of the viper and most other performance vehicles. They show 11.8 - 12.2
I don't know where you got that figure. perhaps from the back of an envelope.
If you haven't got anything intelligent to say then don't bother posting anti-American rubbish and unsubstantiated crap..
You sound like a 9 year old kid pretending to be an adult.
I suppose Keiran has just crapped himself that someone has sniffed out his bulls**t.
I won't hold my breath waiting for a reply.
I was refering to the previous post from Albania.
You sound like a nitwit anyway with your childish and innane comments.
My Viper S**ks ? Oh my child, if you only knew ! Stick with your all day bus ticket....
By mojave 1167214215our vipers S**k here in america??? atleast we make some of our own cars, what the heck do you make there in Albaian???? stupid jealous F**k head ..your just upset because you ride a bicycle.
By spaceII 1180587740Quick = acceleration
Fast = speed
The GSXR is quicker than the Hyabusa.
9.8 vs 10.2
The Hyabusa is faster than the GSXR.
315kph vs 305kph average on tests.
There are a number of stock superbikes that are quicker than the Hyabusa. Check out motorcyclistonline for a list of performance tests of numerous bikes.
The Veron mfg claim is 10.8. It has tested any where between 10.2 and that claim.
Many bikes beat the Veyron over standing 1/4 and km. None beat it's top speed except some highly modified and usually turbocharged superbikes. bang for buck the bikes s**t all over the Veyron which is a dreamers unobtainium machine.
That viper vs turbo busa is totaly fake, wata lot of S**t seriously, I own a turbo busa any vip drivers I call u out for a race
By shaney 1161832480Why would these 2 guys set up a fake race? They look like friends.
The Busa is not turbo-charged. it has a few mods including exhaust, chip, gear box and final drive ratio.
The Viper is supercharged and they claim 730 hp. That is probably at the wheels. Even so the Busa would do the 1/4 mile in about 10.2 secs and the Viper about 11.2. Stock, the viper does between 11.8 and 12.2 depending on weather, driver, model and tune.
Ultimately this Viper is faster but the Busa quicker, a distinction a lot of you people don't seem to understand. A turbo Busa would be about 1 - 1.5 seconds quicker than stock but very difficult to launch cleanly as it tends to wheelie.
Shaney, you own a turbo Hyabusa do you! Suire you do....and pigs might fly!
By falconslayer 1193405122The modern bikes are getting so fast. I would like to see more high powered sportbikes vs jets on the 1/4 mile. Its fun to watch. eg R1 or Suzuki vs F16 on runway. Or F1 race car vs R1 vs F16 in 1/4 mile or more. That would be pretty good.
By yahpete 1154442036Mig 29 will kick Busa's arse.
How about the speed of light. It will kick anythibg's arse. Except perhaps Star Trek Voyager going into Hyperspace.
Really, you children should go to bed.
for one thing that viper (not 2 sure the exact model name) struggles after about 5800rpm anyway so its cant throw and use all its 730bhp to good use....plus its much more heavier than the bike, so the power to weight ratio is much more effective for the bike...(and considering the bike has probably atleast 13000rpm andway to use up) its can throw the power in much better so it kinda unfair...
now the bugatti veyron wud kick its ass easily...and if ur considering racing a bike in a tuned car all u lot... make sure ur force induction is thrown to the higher rpm..2..a gear ratio range...3..that its lighter...4 has more than 6000 "useable" rpm... and finnaly a good fuel rail...
reminds or the film torgue (spell) stupid fuking biasd bike film...lol (F and F car biased but atleast its more realistic).
CBR1000RR ('06) 158.8 @ 11,500 79.6 @ 8750 9.898 @ 146.47 2.76
Have a look at motorcyclistonline.
All the performace specs on over 100 models for last 10 years.
Veyron mfg claim 10.8 1/4
Tests any where between 10.2 - 10.8.
It doesn't kick any top bike's arse in 1/4 from 5 manufacturers. Suzuki GSXR 1000 06 or 08 Hyabusa, Yamaha R1 06, Kawasaki Zx14 Ninja 06, Honda 1000 Fireblade 05.
Top speed of fireblade measured at 315 kph unrestricted.
Veyron kicks arse in top speed only and rollons from 150 mph
Race that motorbike against the Tomahawk with an estimated top speed of 400 mph. It's estimated because that wind speed would kill the rider....
By The Michiganian 1158362209It is a concept bike. A mobile work of engineering art. Nobody expects to ride it at it's potential top speed you dweeb.
If you can believe the info from Chrysler, 10 have been sold at about $550,000.
I presume these people will put it on display. No one should be foolish enough to ride it at top speed.
It's not road registerable, road ridable nor was ever intended to be either of those. Why would anyone try to race a Hyabusa against a concept vehicle that probably couldn't be ridden beyond 100 mph.
but that's insane, keep that kind of dragging on the track. I would S**t my self if I was passed by these two cars on the road..... damn!
By americanjock30 1145876861If you are so anti-road racing, why bother watching the clip? Or do you just come here to preach the moral high ground?
By falconslayer 1193125043Why come on the forum to just preach. If you don't like it just don't watch. You just telling these "2 F**ks " to stop won't matter a pinch of poop.
By falconslayer 1193125396the busa does have allot of power,,what will blow your mind is Kawasaki's new ZX-14, its got even more HP than the busa,,still, car vs sports bike is just no contest, period.
By PureEgo03 1145766364one of the two nutjobs slam into some poor unsuspecting 70 year old driving at 100kph.
By Maelstrom13 1145759922that YOU weren't smashed by these idiots. While not "awesome", for us here at the 'Cafe, it would've been good news! Dickweed.
By LiarsHateU.S. 1146281864i agree with all you europe people ... .america is extrememly gay. .. unless ur talking about north america then u can S**k my nuts cause canada pwns..
By colin.j 1145750021What does extremely Gay mean? I'm not familiar with the current slang.
Colon=large intestine or bowel leading the back passage. This is usually full of s**t which seems appropriate for you.
Sorry that's Colin not Colon. Oh silly me.
J=Jerk or chronic mastibater
or is that J=Jerk or Jackass
Perhaps I'll stick to your description as Jerk who is full of s**t.
You certainly have no meaningfull contribution to motoring forums.
europe people = European people
Extrememly = extremely
gay = homosexual
u = you
S**k my nuts = bend down and place my testicles in your mouth. Please do not bite them off!
Canada pwns = Canada owns = Canada is superior and completely dominant.
In the context of high speed racing on public roads you seem to be saying that Americans are inferior, build inferior cars to europeans and Canadians are OK. Seems like another anti USA rant that has nothing to do with the performance and relative merits of high performance vehicles.
I doubt if your IQ would exceed 95.
people RALLY hate america... i wonder why, i live here and i feel terribly stereotyped
By TheOnionChronicles 1171674856Don't you mean "People really hate Americans?"
What people? Every body? Most? A lot?
Do you have a reliable survey results?
Yes, people like making unsupported and sweeping statements. It seems to be a game of put down to boost their tiny egos. Some people hate French people, some people love French people.
Some people jump on the bandwagon of "kick the yanks" Most Americans I have met a lovely people. There are ar**holes all over the world and that includes Europe and Asia and the Middle East.
What's the point, bikes are much faster because they're much lighter. It has nothing to do with horsepower.
What's even stupider is he's racing a hayabusa, i'm surprised the viper even kept up...but then again its horsepower is more than 4 times the hayabusa's.
They wouldn't even think about racing from a dead start.
No contest.
I'll give you a Hyabusa with 10 hp. then see if horsepower has nothing to do with performance.
Horsepower is the critical part of every vehicle.
3700 lbs + no horsepower = infinite 1/4
3700 lbs + 200 hp = 16 sec 1/4
3700 lbs + 500 hp = 12.2 sec 1/4
3700 lbs + 1000 hp = 10 sec 1/4
Veyron = 4200 lb and 1001 hp
10.4 secs 1/4
Power and weight are the critical factors in performance.
The driver and more importantly, the rider's skill are important factors in the performance equation.
But the Gear Changing is a bit Slow. Don't Know is the car's Faults or the Driver is S**ks .
Also I'm Ready for People who disagree my comment, by Throwing in All These Theorys that doesn't make any sense!
Go Ahead I'm Ready! LOL
A very stupid race on a public road, makes for a stupid video which then in turn starts a idiotic slagging contest about europe vs the US.
Car, bikes, and adolescent immaturity, the perfect recipe for moronic posts and commentary.
And moronic thought police who would come on a forum, lecture people and moralise. It's like those psuedo-religious moral crusaders who visit amsterdam to "research the sex industry". TSK TSK TSK. You are probably a closet revhead.
By falconslayer 1193467422the Viper guy is a S**t drive shiftin up 2 quickly! He would have lost anyway
By kieran_n22 1188844143How do you know the guy was short shifting? The Viper has an 8 litre + v10 engine that is relatively low reving. It's big feature is its massive torque at low and middle RPM. No point in reving the crap out of it. How do you know what revs he was using? You driven a Viper and know the sound of the engine at the correct shift points? So what was the rpm he was using? What are the optimum shift points in each gear for this Viper? 5,500? 6,000, 5780?
By falconslayer 1193227285The bike is really nice but it does not have the WOW factor that a VIPER has. I have a buddy that has take his hubu to 205 and I have only gone 195 in my car. He would eat my lunch too. But no WOW factor unless you know what one is.
By EGGFOO77 1187144403If you rode the Hyabusa you wouldn't go "wow", you would go "FAAAARRRRKKKK!!!"
Sure, from the outside the Viper looks good and delivers "wow" performance. But, because the Hyabusa is a mass produced motorcycle, at about an 8th of the Vipers cost, it has become relatively common in USA, Australia and Europe. The Viper is very rare in Australia and does have the "wow" factor. Perhaps you have to have a vehicle that everyone stares at, you wear your sunglasses, look cool and look at yourself in shop windows. Most people ragard this breed of drivers as wankers in their extreme form.
I'm in the how it goes rather than how it looks group.
It would be cool to see a 07 Hennessey 1000TT Venom Viper go against a Busa. 100-200 roll is 5sec in R&D faster than a Bugatti by 3 seconds
By brave0ne 1187110585There is always someone coming up with an example of rare performance mod of some car that will beat a standard Hyabusa. What does it prove?
Hennesy rules? Hennesy for president?
There are lots of modified Japanes turbos that will beat a standard Busa over the 1/4, in role-ons and in top speed. So what, should all Hyabusa owners now burn their bikes should we kneel before Hnnessy?
Do you have a Hennessey 1000tt Venom Viper? or are you just a wanking dreamer.
Never say always and never say never.
There are many examples where a modified, road legal car has beaten a Hyabusa either because of massive horsepower and modifications or because of poor rider technique.
A standard Hyabusa will beat any "standard" road legal car over the 1/4 mile and standing kilometer. One of a kind prototypes and specials should not be included.
Yeh, bike is always going to win in the case of a lightly modded Hyabusa vs a supercharged Viper. That is in respect of accelleration but not top speed. The car may have the edge by 10 mph given a long enough run.
should have turboed the viper.... but the race would have been fair if it was from a dead stop since it is supercharged which is working non stop not like turbo which you need to build boost then the race from a roll would be fair.
By Vrezh 1179440107Is that like a handycap system? Non- turbos cant race turbos. Bikes can't race cars unless they are towing a trailer.
4s can't race sixes and sixes v8s.
Sedans can't race sports cars unless the the sedans windows are wound down.
This is about "run what you brung".
The racers don't have to race. They choose potentially unequal contests either because they just like racing-anything or they mistakenly think their vehicle is faster. Sometimes they are just dumb dick heads who have little knowledge of the performance of various cars and bikes. Some car drivers don't understand who blindingly quick most bike bikes are.
New Viper has 600 HP. As does the new Corvette. $90,000. Tell me again why American cars S**k .
By mojave 1167747950American cars dont just S**k , They REALLY S**k He must have spent $60,000 on that Viper and that $8000 bike ate him and spat him out.
By bigjay123 1169330746It's a 2 seat sports car. So because motorcycles have superb "bang for buck" value, people who spend $60,000 or $1,000,000 on a car should feel stupid and cheated.
Many people don't like bikes and want to travel in all weather, in comfort and safety. Your anti american rant just demonstrates your lake of maturity and mindless anti-american beliefs.
It's weighs, not weights.
Whats your point?
We all know the bike weighs a lot less.
Ten times?
Lets see......
Viper = 3700 lb on road
Huyabusa = 520lb on road
3700/520 = 7.1 times
Another case of rubbish masquerading as facts on the net.
Should the bike weigh 3700 lbs to make it an even race?
A Ferrari can't race a Veyron until the weight and power are the same.
What are you saying?
that is the point of motorcycles to be lighter. and it is why will always be quicker than cars
By Dr-Feelgood 1183198136I cannot believe it could even come close to the fastest motorbike of ALL TIME!!!
WOW!!!!
I can't wait to see the rematch when the super charged 800 bhp Viper bite it's ass!!!
hayabusa vs Viper For all u guys out there, that video is totally fake I own a turbo charged hayabusa and so far changed 2 and i can tell u no way in hell that viper could keep up with standed busa put a side a turbo charged one, its all part of marketing parts or watever. I call out any vip drivers with 2sec head start
by ‎shaney , 26th October reply / moderate 784376
Where did you dream up all this contrived rubbish. You can't even get the bike specs correct.
You have not one shred of credible evidence or any coherant arguements to backup your view that it's a fake video. Parts marketing for what the Busa won convicingly. It was a 730 hp Viper. it does have stump pulling torque and prodigeous power. 11.2 1/4 not too foul. Just mates playing on the roads. Not some marketing scheme.
Seriously,this isn't even a race.But before you go trashing on american cars, go drive a viper.Or are you too scared to get out of your mini,MG, or other tiny little box of a european car.It's worth it for the sound of the engine alone.Bet you don't have the nuts to tach it out in second in the city. BTW youll be doing around 110 when you get there.
By jtcarter 1172337383Another pendulum swing of the anti European rhetoric. there are now many very fine high performance larger European vehicles. Generally they handle better and are better balanced then the average American performance cars.
Your anti European rant has no substance at all.
Ferrari
Porsche
BMW
Audi
Lamborgini
Lotus
Bugatti
Pagani
Most of these would s**t on the bulk of the US offerings.
There are a few American cars that are up there. Just a few.