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A BMW compared with an F1 car in a brake test.
how about you throw in the fact that a formula car weighs almost 1/3rd of that of most normal cars, not to mention brake brake diameters are about what 3 inches larger than the already large 14 inch brake rotors on an m3, most cars have around like a 10-12. Also factor in the stickier tires used on formula cars vs an M3 (which are already ultra high performance tires for everyday use). Also the things the other's mentioned, you get a 32meter difference, compared with most other cars, it would probably be more like a 40-45m difference. I'd like to see a comparison braking test against the SLR, Enzo, Zonda, and Carrera GT. To see where the world's top of the line cars hold up against F1
By Mistermino 1145586162 Reply Spam [+4] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveIt's just a comparison you idiot!!!
By richey713 1184967816 Reply Spam [+1] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removeduh!!! carbon fibre brakes for F1 and m3 racing brakes. big difference.
By grinaljay 1145713461 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removeyes, big different between F1 racing car and BMW street car.
By Mohd audi 1177169041 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveHave you ever seen the size of a F1 car rim? It could not possibly fit a brake disc as large as you say. In fact F1brakes they are lot smaller (I'd say about 9in maximum (may opinion)). The clever thing is that they have several brake discs in a row - just like a airliners.
By VonSmollhausen 1145610623 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Remove...well the surface area that an F1 car brake rotors have compared to that of a normal car is much more, do you agree with that, I just didn't want to complicate things with the retards on here saying stuff like their brakes will melt to their tires...
By Mistermino 1145640800 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removei think the demonstration is to show how well the BMW brakes. It's quite a showing actually that the BM2w at speed slowed and stopped as well as it did. There are several things to take into consideration when trying to analyze this video. Unless you have ever changed the brakes on either car you really have no concept. As a mechanic specializing in brakes and suspension on foreign cars i can tell you that bmw and mercedes have about the best braking performance and system of any touring car. Now, that being said, Ferarri and Lotus and a few others use a race inspired braking system very similar to F-1. 4 piston calipers, ceramic pads, slotted and ported brake rotors plus a brake proportiner valve that distributes brakin evenly to all 4 wheels. ( or can be adjusted for different brake bias settings) not to mention the suspension on the F-1 is absolutely rigid where the BMW plows under heavy braking even with computer controlled abs. Front engine versus mid engine. vehicle ride height . Tire size and type are a big contibutor to the differences.
By uniformguy75115 1146352270 Reply Spam [+2] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveAmazing lesson for all us (ok some of us at least)
By Bcnbartender 1148615595 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveThs video teaches one thing. Buy a F1 car.
By wadup95 1180813847 Reply Spam [+1] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveWho gives a crap?
By no relajes 1147674238 Reply Spam [+1] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveWhy would a lighter weight car with larger brake discs stop faster??? ....um maybe physics...
By He_Hate_Me 1188432963 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveFormula cars are really light, have a 8 liter engine that stil pumps out 800 hp (That insane for such a small engine) and it obviously has good brakes(Its a racecar...idiot).
By Bugatti123 1177737652 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removembw very goooooooooooood race
By ed01 1162601078 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveUse the BMW against nascar, or some other full bodied race car, something close in weight. Honestly, this doesnt prove squat to me.
By down75752 1159081469 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveJust if anyone thought this was an M3 in the video it's not. Check the front spoiler, wheels, door mirrors, no flared arches or side vent on the front fender.
By mtun3861 1157862588 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveActually, the wheels on a F1 car are just over 14" (360mm) in diameter, and the brake discs a little over 11" (280mm). The rear wheels are actually wider than they are tall. Most people don't realize that given equal weight, a car will accelerate and decelerate faster with a shorter wheel since it concentrates the mass closer to the hub.
By CaptainXanax 1145656489 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removepoor guy, who will be hit by that car
By dr_ggm 1145507083 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removebut the center of gravity is higher in the BMW, which makes it less stable when braking. because of that, the brakes are designed so that they don't lock, which decreases the chances of spinning out of control, as well as avoid damage (having your brakes melt to the tire). all in all this wasn't a particularly fair test.
By lpod100 1145504983 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveYour analysis is sorely incomplete.
Although the centers of gravity are different, the center of gravity plays an almost insignificate role in this case. If you were compare the F1 to a 4 wheel drive then yes. You neglected significantly more important factors including, the moving mass of both vehicles (the F1 weighs much less), the coefficient of friction ( the tire compounds of the two sets of tires are much different) and the surface area of the braking surfaces. When kinetic energy is transformed into heat, the braking material (ceramic) must be able to dissapate that energy.
Another year or 2 of engineering classes and you should be ready to properly articulate your thoughts.
I don't think it's meant to show how bad a BMW is, but how good F1 cars are compared to other cars.
Testing any car against a F1 car isn't fair.
with my car it would take 2 full rounds to the track to make it brake: it doesn't have ABS, it has E.W.B.S (Eventually Will Brake System)
lol
F1 has Better Brakes? So we should all drive a F1 on the Road to go Shopping, to reduce the Numbers Of Accidents?
By Devilly 1145577841 Reply Spam [-1] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removequote Ipod100: "have your brakes melt to the tire"
uh... how in the hell is your brakes going to melt to a tire... unless u put them right next to eachother and took a blow torch and melted them together... no way in hell will the brake melt to the tire... theyre not even connect to eachtoerh... he knows a little of what he's talking about, but a moron for that statement alone. this high center of gravity stuff is true, but u gotta take one thing into mind. F1: professional grade ceramic brakes BMW M3: non profressional grade brakes... difference in grade, quailty and let alone, strength... this is only a show of how great an F1 car is in controlling its speed...
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