Panathinaikos Derby

I said "MOST OF THE FANS of any Greek multisport club like PAO, Olympiacos, AEK, PAOK, Aris, would prefer to watch a basketball derby... than a football game with a weak team, if their basketball team was going really well." I didn't say what I personally do or would do. I said what I have seen all these years in Greek sports.
rustyjames35 I asked you 3 questions about YOUR GROUP and you haven't answered yet. European firms don't care about the glory of beating the opponent (team or firm)??!!

About roma and lazio fans not filling their stadium against Olympiacos. Isn't attending every match regardless of the opponent a big part of ultras mentality? Haven't you said it yourself and accused Gate 13 for not doing this? So how come those Italian ultras snobbed these games? I see double standards from your side here...

motocycleboy how much time did you stay in Greece (Athens and Salonica) and made a clear conclusion that Gate7, Original 21, Gate 4, Super 3, are among the best firms in the world and NOT Gate 13? Your assumption is that Olympiacos fans don't go to basketball or other sports for glory? They even went to the volleyball derby at their home against Panathinaikos last Saturday, after their administration signed some good foreign players this summer. They go to water polo finals just to be champions.

england bollocks..you cant sing in a rythm, you can make nothing except drinking bears and say F**k the police makes you ship..look the rest eyropean stadiums..tipical england prideful without nothing but words

i tell you mentaliy in england.Hooligans or firm members don't fuckin' go to other sport.just FOOTBALL.Like ultras in italy or germany-turkey-holland-belgium etc all over the europe.europe's religion is football that's why we don't care glory..u can't understand obviously..hey nba europe started, just go and watch..see the differences your basket fans and rest of the european's basket fans...why do u think that only companies plays basket?? this is europe not usa,like i said u can't understand.

''would prefer to watch a basketball derby or a very important European match than a football game with a weak team''
isn't that your comment? did i make from my arse? you excatly the represent your gate13 mentality..and i will tell you what is real drama..'IDEALIST HOOLIGAN AND ULTRAS'isn't it funny..another gate13member tell me we r not ultras we r hooligans and he only watch basket-nba or nba europe thing..this is what i call insultin' football culture.

if you still can't understand the fact that i came to greece and did travel all mediterrian. i witnessed with all my own eyes.even i wrote rome-oli or lazio-oli videos the almost same comment because the greeks were wondering why half of the stadium is empty, or where is rome or lazio ultras etc. i said the fact that in italy the respect is too low to greek teams,even more low than turks.i talked with many oli fans and no one did back me like your stupid mentality. paok-aris: i don't know exatly

rustyjames35 which is the ultras group or hooligan firm that you belong? What is their mentality? Don't you want glory for your favorite team?

rustyjames35 it's YOU that's trying to insult me by calling me names ON THE INTERNET! Can you show me where I insulted anyone? I just stated the facts of the Greek sports culture. Speaking of comedy, it's a real drama, that you didn't understand the meaning of the few phrases I wrote, and you made unfounded assumptions about what I prefer.

The fact that you have among the best firms in the world: Olympiakos - Gate7,
AEK Athens - Original 21, Paok Saloniki - Gate 4, Aris Saloniki - Gate 3 AND NOT Panathinaikos Gate 13, proves that you either 1) don't know anything about the Greek scene, or 2) you hate Gate 13 for reasons other than ultras mentality, or both of 1 and 2...

and do you know european FOOTBALL CULTURE ?? probbaly not..you r just wannabe american basket fans. deathmetalgr, like i said u r comedy like your gate13 mentality..
what is next?? prefer baseball or cricket instead of football ?? stupids and wannabees.

so, you r sayin' that gate13 is glory hunter??
ultras have to be glory hunter?? and probbaly u r against the modern basket then??
you r comedy...why don't you go and watch nba tv instead of typin' idiot comment...and don't insult hooligans or ultras mentality if you don't know anything.

TURKEY TEXAS

thnks for the confess...actually i knew that.
accordin' gate13 mentality: go to basketball because of glory and F**k regular football match...seems like american sports fan culture.

ULTRAS MENATLITY: Against the modern football and support your local football team everwhere and evertime no matter what...

im ok with gate13 prefer to go basket and don't care but like evert real ultras (not wannabe ultras), im only savin' honour and prestige of ULTRAS CULTURE...

motocycleboy you don't understand Greek sports' culture. Most of the fans of any Greek multisport club like PAO, Olympiacos, AEK, PAOK, Aris, would prefer to watch a basketball derby or a very important European match than a football game with a weak team, if their basketball team was going really well.