Dogfight Story :Vietnam May 10, 1972 Randy 'Duke' Cunningham

Tags:
Aces Cunningham Dogfight F-4 F4 Fredgreen Vietnam
FRGR8
  • Affiliate Submitter:
    FRGR8
  • International International
  • Comments: 0
  • Views: 458
  • Added: 04-Feb-08

Vietnam May 10, 1972
Randy 'Duke' Cunningham was the pilot and his RIO was Lt. (jg.) Willie 'Irish' Driscoll flying a F-4J.
After WOII and Korea the designers of airplanes assumed that the day of
the gun, on a fighterplane, was over.
F-4's in Vietnam, on this sortie, had only missiles and NO GUNS also training was poor.
Before Vietnam it was forbidden to train a dogfight situation, it was considered out dated,technology was the answer rockets, missiles, nuke-strike.....why did you need a fighter for?
After the great losses in airbattles over Vietnam, new trainings programs where introduced.
The NAVY came with "TOP GUN"(almost at the end of the Vietnam war) and the USAF came with "Red Flag".
The new generation fighters,even the F-22 "raptor", have all guns now, a hard lesson was learnt, in the first gulf-war the low-tech plane such as the A-10 thunderbolt, was the nr1 tank-killer, this was not appreciated by the the designers.

link:
http://www.acepilots.com/vietnam/cunningham.html

  1. Categories: Wheels & Wings
Comments on

Dogfight Story :Vietnam May 10, 1972 Randy 'Duke' Cunningham

15 Comments | Add Comment
  • On November 28, ...

    On November 28, 2005, Cunningham pled guilty to tax evasion, conspiracy to commit bribery, mail fraud, and wire fraud in federal court in San Diego. Among the many bribes Cunningham admitted receiving were the house sale at an inflated price, the free use of the yacht, a used Rolls-Royce, antique furniture, Persian rugs, jewelry, and a $2,000 contribution for his daughter's college graduation party. What a crook - he probably lied about his military record, or paid pilots to make it up.

    By wildhippy [Affiliate User] 1223247797 Reply Spam Moderate Up Moderate Down
  • For what?

    For what?

    By Aistulf [Affiliate User] 1223207064 Reply Spam Moderate Up Moderate Down
  • But the speaker ...

    But the speaker claims that Toon existed.

    Cunningham shot down a captain or another highly ranked and skilled Vietnamese pilot, but surely not Toon.

    By MobiusDragon89 [Affiliate User] 1222809782 Reply Spam Moderate Up Moderate Down
  • Look at link in ...

    Look at link in more info:
    about col. Toon:in fact, "Col. Tomb" did not exist...there you get more detail info:)

    By FRGR8 [Affiliate User] 1222729160 Reply Spam Moderate Up Moderate Down
  • There wasn't an Ace ...

    There wasn't an Ace pilot called Toon in the Vietcong air force...the top scoring Vietnamese pilot was Nguyen Van Coc with 8(9?) kills.

    Nguyen Toon was just a legend...I can't believe such a reliable source for info is spreading false information... o.o

    By MobiusDragon89 [Affiliate User] 1222724542 Reply Spam Moderate Up Moderate Down
  • He's a Bad Mammer ...

    He's a Bad Mammer jammer

    By johnathan343 [Affiliate User] 1222549312 Reply Spam Moderate Up Moderate Down
  • wow... a true ...

    wow... a true American Hero

    By JordanMobFigaz [Affiliate User] 1222374633 Reply Spam Moderate Up Moderate Down
  • I think he was a ...

    I think he was a commander when he retired. his backseater Willie was also a commander when he retired.

    By KUNYSZZ [Affiliate User] 1222284135 Reply Spam Moderate Up Moderate Down
  • It was mig 19 they ...

    It was mig 19 they were fighting! He said "his wing roots lit up" Mig 17 had guns under the intake, and mig 19 in the wings. All videos I saw so far simulated mig 17, and that is wrong!

    By ivan1977 [Affiliate User] 1221653131 Reply Spam Moderate Up Moderate Down
  • what a crying shame ...

    what a crying shame this man is now in jail.

    By edx881122 [Affiliate User] 1220796129 Reply Spam Moderate Up Moderate Down
  • I have to say the ...

    I have to say the phantom f4 would have to be one of the best aircraft ever made in our life time.I love to listen to the flying aces of wars gone by who made our world what it is today.Good or Bad. The Greys will soon tell us the future.

    By fredfungalspore [Affiliate User] 1216877791 Reply Spam Moderate Up Moderate Down
  • He was a Commander.

    He was a Commander.

    By saxocopter [Affiliate User] 1216488577 Reply Spam Moderate Up Moderate Down
  • what was his rank ...

    what was his rank when he retired?

    By elbosketube24 [Affiliate User] 1215309062 Reply Spam Moderate Up Moderate Down
  • United States has ...

    United States has to take both sides to this war: SUPPORT the war by sending maimed soldiers back into Iraq and then NOT SUPPORT it by sending Vietnam's first Jet Ace to jail.

    If anything, sentence him to a life term of Air Combat instruction at the tactical weapons school in Miramar. Hes still got the FISTS

    By jdorsal [Affiliate User] 1213417426 Reply Spam Moderate Up Moderate Down
  • How They Justified ...

    How They Justified Putting an COMBAT ACE pilot, in jail for 8 years...IS ABSOLUTELY BEYOND ME. I don't care what he did. This man is an ACE pilot. There's a handful in the world, which bare that title. I certainly understand removing him from politics. However, placing a heroic individual like Duke Cunningham in PRISON, is ridiculous. But like the rest of the anti-war crowd, I'm sure they "support the troops." Placing an ACE Combat pilot in prison. It's WRONG....ABSOLUTELY WRONG, by any standard

    By playrway007 [Affiliate User] 1213138236 Reply Spam Moderate Up Moderate Down
15 Comments | Add Comment