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A clip from this old film of Aikido master Koichi Tohei.
Ya and its not as super powered as they claim, but thats any martial art. the people practicing always think its better then it really is be that bjj, boxing, karate, or aikido.
By wayoftheforesthand [Affiliate User] 1222992025 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveOkay, but I still think aikido is tall on claims but short on proof.
By sweetsweatyfeet [Affiliate User] 1222989568 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removemainly because aikido see no purpose in doings such things. its taught to cops for its arresting techniques, but you are right there are no real videos of aikido fight, mainly because its not a fighting art its a self defense art. big difference. meanings the person doesnt expect a person to counter. fighting arts expect a person to square off in a ring and fight. aikido merely surprise and restrains. its the aiki of jujutsu basically, just more spiritual
By wayoftheforesthand [Affiliate User] 1222985073 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveIt looks like teacher was winding up his music box. But to be specific, the student didn't just pull his arm away which would be expected, his whole body leaped away. This is done to dramatize the art and it is NOT uncommon that uke's do cooperate in order to make teacher and the demo look good. Reality is very different thing and I have never, (no not once) seen a clip of real contest between a skilled aikidoka and a resisting skilled fighter of another discipline.
By sweetsweatyfeet [Affiliate User] 1222982823 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removeonce agian thats not ki projection, thats pain. it wasnt a tap, it was a pinch on a nerve ending. nothing magical about that. it hurts like hell.
By wayoftheforesthand [Affiliate User] 1222981040 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveLike when teacher winds the students forearm like a wristwatch then does his magic tap and student goes flying. Am I expected to believe that? Like his magic ki force can make anything come true. THAT is dreamland.
By sweetsweatyfeet [Affiliate User] 1222979643 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveI am not sure where you got the idea that they were jumping back because of a ki projection. i think they were flying backwards because it hurt like hell!
By wayoftheforesthand [Affiliate User] 1222957213 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveSorry but that's just wishful thinking. Whether aikido is effectiveor not has NOT been demonstratively proven at least not in any video I've seen. But the real issue I have problem with is ki projection. Do you really believe this Tohei guy barely touches his student and he just flies away? Can't you see that the uke recoils and jumps away? It's so obvious. Give this, what am I supposed to think of aikido?
By sweetsweatyfeet [Affiliate User] 1222899435 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removebecause if it was in a real match it would look similar to jujutsu. not bjj but jjj. japanese jj has all of this in it, the difference is aikido focuses on the aiki aspect alone and takes a far more pacifistic and esoteric approach to training. also it has been used in combat by the early practitioners. true its not used in mma cage fighting now days. aikido is a far more self defense system then fighting system. the element of surprise compared to exchanging blows knowings whats coming at you.
By wayoftheforesthand [Affiliate User] 1222874923 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removedid i mention i teach aikido? non of my student "fall" for me, Ukemi is an art that save your own joints, I promise you that it is like electricity, harmless in the walls, put it in an unsafe arena and yes it can kill you. to some people, nascar seams fake because the drivers don't constantly wreck each other... peace.
By williamross77 [Affiliate User] 1222684172 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveAnd BTW I make no judgement on what you study or have studied. I respect what you do. I especially have respect for BJJ since it has at least proven itself in actual combative matches and is truly effective. I respect many of the martial arts.
It is these crazy aikido demo clips with ki projection and other silly stunts that I question. And I'm certainly not alone in this opinion.
No matter what you say ki projection IS pure BS. And they always refuse to prove it under controlled objective testing. It's always with a student and always a demo. I make no claims for myself but I know faked movements when I see them. You can see the guy jumping, you can see him recoiling his legs before jumping. It is so obvious. For once, just once, let's see a clip of a real resisting trained fighter in an actual match with aikido man. I would wager money on the outcome.
By sweetsweatyfeet [Affiliate User] 1222662916 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveIT IS SO OBVIOUS YOU HAVE NEVER TRAINED IN A REAL AIKIDO SCHOOL.maybe you "tested" a few moves with abuddy or something. But I have trained in BJJ, Kenpo, Kajukenbo, And Aikido. there is NO Faking. You mistake training principles for the art. I mean i have for now 17 years training and will practice AIkido until i am old and grey, cant do that with MMA.
By williamross77 [Affiliate User] 1222659812 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveI agree..... let an aikido blackbelt grab you up...then tell me it's a crock
By Dovemagician [Affiliate User] 1222391060 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveI aggree with you sweetyfootmasterguy. I want to believe in this S**t because it looks cool. I've read the books people told me to read and had people put me in arm locks but I wasnt resisting. The idea that the average person can learn some aikido and deftly defeat a knife weilding attacker is ridiculous. Maybe a good sized bouncer or a cop could use acouple locks here and there.
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