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Pontian Dance group - Efremidis - Athens Greece
I edited the video so it was short and sweet, the group dances various dances from different regions of Pontos, they also have the Momogeria come in doing the traditional "Carnival" style Christmas dance, with the Bagpipe (Touloum). Efremidis is on one of the Drums and gianni Polixroniadi on the other....
Another BIG thanks to ERT World for playing such great programs and traditional events.
http://www.ert.gr/
for more information on Pontian traditions visit:
http://www.pontosworld.com
Firstly lets clear the truth;Greeks mother land is Athen not Trabzon or any Black Sea side.Lazish and Hazar Turks they were there before Pontus Imperia. They import this folklore from the native Black Sea People (Laz-Who grandsons of Kimmers)
Before the interchange the Christians folks-Muslim folks what in few wars between Turks&Greeks in past.Who made this dance in Greece it means they are Christian Laz or Turks.Sad for some Greeks but its the truth!If you check the Greek folklore you cant find any enstrument as Tulum,melody and sound and figures in their dances.This culter is South Caucasian not Balkan or Egean or medditerranian :)Hi to all Laz and Turks over there :)
¡!Στην Ελλάδα κατέφυγε μόνο το 20% των Λαζών κατοίκων του Πόντου, λόγω χριστιανικού δόγματος. Το υπόλοιπο 80% των δήθεν Ποντίων (Λαζών) παραμένει στην Τουρκία λόγω Ισλαμικής θρησκείας. Καμμία σχέση με Ελληνες. Στις δεκαετίες 1960/1970 οι Πόντιοι μετανάστες στην Δ. Γερμανία αυτοπροσδιορίζοντο ως Λαζοντόϊτς
By vodenec [Affiliate User] 1215428635 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveMakedonas diladi = Ellinas
alla to onoma sou den einai makedoniko...boulgariko/slabiko einai.
Bale kanena makedoniko re san makedonas pou eisai!
swstos anemovroxi...poly swstos,alla afta na ta akoune kapioi alloi kai na mathainoun
By avgitas [Affiliate User] 1213968679 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveΕίσαι Έλληνας δηλαδή. Εεε εντάξει γιατί το νικ σου μοιάζει με κάποιον που δηλώνει Βούλγαρος που μένει στη Μακεδονία στην Ελλάδα δηλαδή.
By Anemovroxis [Affiliate User] 1213835654 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveΑν προβληματίστηκες με τα σχόλια του vodenec μη μασάς... Οι Πόντιοι (δεν μιλάω για τους Λαζούς) είναι Ελληνάρες και θύματα μιας εποχής που έπρεπε να γίνουν ανακατατάξεις. Κάποιοι αναγκάστηκαν να αλλάξουν λαλιά όταν το τότε Τουρκικό καθεστώς θέλοντας να ομοιογεννοποιήσει τους πληθυσμούς έκοβε γλώσσες και τις αράδιαζε στις πλατείες για συμμόρφωση. Οι μαρτυρίες είναι μάρτυρων που ήταν μόλις παππούδες και γιαγιάδες μας.
By Anemovroxis [Affiliate User] 1213835459 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removeden to pistevw oti malwnoun oi ellhnes me tous ellhnes!! diladi eleos!! mexri twra malwname me tous Tourkous k twra tha exoume provlima k metaksy mas?>??ginontia afta? oi Pontioi ine apogonoi tou Ellinikou fylou Iwnwn.pou apoikhsan ekei appo ton 8o aiwna p.x. an thimamai kala. to thema pantws ine oti twra eseis dhmiourgeite provlima k den katalavainw pio ine. kante reply an exw adiko..
By avgitas [Affiliate User] 1213718993 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveMakedonas
By vodenec [Affiliate User] 1213619953 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removetelika ti ratsa eisai esy file vodenec?
By Anemovroxis [Affiliate User] 1213594111 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveEllinogiftos yste kai fenete,,
By vodenec [Affiliate User] 1213556258 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removeden afineis tis malakies re poutanosperma slave????ehete diamorfosi istoriki ipostasi me vasi tis avasimes propagandes ton arhigon tis poutanoxoras sas!!!to mono pou sas enonei me tin istoria einai i glossa sas re slavoi!!!!!!!milas gia laous kai politismous ahriste neaterntal pou oute mporeite na tous ftasete kai o monos tropos gia na tous polemisete einai na prospathite na tous mionete me tis malakies pou vgazei to vromostoma sas!!!!!
By ferenidis [Affiliate User] 1213555574 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveΗ μοναδικός συνδετήριος κρίκος που ενώνει το πληθυσμιακό αυτό σύμφυρμα με τους γηγενείς κάτοικους της Ελλάδας είναι η κοινή "Ορθόδοξη" Χριστιανική πίστη και η θρησκευτική μισαλλοδοξία προς το "καταραμένο" Ισλάμ. Ο ίδιος παράγοντας ενώνει τους αυτοαποκαλούμενους Πόντιους με τα "αδελφά χριστιανικά έθνη" των Αρμενίων και Ιβήρων/Γεωργιανών.
By vodenec [Affiliate User] 1212382639 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removeόπως οι Πέρσες, οι Τιβαρηνοί, οι Χάλυβες/Χαλδαίοι (Λαζοί), οι Μάκρονες, οι Καρδούχοι (Κούρδοι), οι Κόλχοι, οι Παφλαγόνες, οι Δρίλοι, οι Ταοχόοι, οι Μοσύνοικοι, οι Ασσαίοι κ.α. Η Ποντιακή φυλή έχει αδιαμφισβήτητη ανατολική προέλευση και συνιστά μιά ακόμα εθνοτική μειονότητα στην σύγχρονη πολυεθνική Ελλάδα
By vodenec [Affiliate User] 1212382614 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveΟι σημερινοί Πόντιοι της Ελλάδας κατάγονται μία πανσπερμία Ασιατικών φυλών της νότιας παρακαυκάσιας ζώνης. Κυρίως Λαζοί αλλά και Αρμένιοι, Σελτζούκοι, Ιβηρες (Γεωργιανοί), Αμπχάζιοι, Ατζάριοι κ.α. επικάθηνται πάνω σε ένα φυλετικό υπόστρωμα ιστορικά αρχαιότερων γηγενών φυλών της περιοχής
By vodenec [Affiliate User] 1212382574 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removemongoloi otan emeis eixame auti ti koultoura pou vlepete...eseis kinigagate elafia...apo tis spilies...i moni sas efevresi stin istoria sas einai i tourkiki xestra...kata ta alla...HLIAS YFANTIDHS APLA SEVASMOS...
By gnisios [Affiliate User] 1212050058 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removesorry to say that, but you are wrong!
By OlgaAth [Affiliate User] 1211967795 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemovewOOw..!!!!best
By Devoice88 [Affiliate User] 1211933531 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removestfu and read some real history books you F*g !
By NOZ88 [Affiliate User] 1211802878 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveThe music is also very different.
By Atinuri53 [Affiliate User] 1211352361 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveThe Lazs don't dance like this. But the instruments and costumes are similar.
By Atinuri53 [Affiliate User] 1211351977 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removehey guys i am sorry i did not mean to be rude but if Greeks will accept the truth that they learned this stuff from Kolxians that would be a true orthodox behavior and i would not think bad at all.
By base88888 [Affiliate User] 1210507017 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removeonly thing Greek here is the guys with the dress we do not have that in pontos
By base88888 [Affiliate User] 1210506950 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removethis is culture of ``Kolxeti,Kolxis,Amciant Goergian kingdom.`` I am orthodox i do not hate Greeks but i hate some Greek nationalists, that tried to erase Georgian fresco from the church in Jerusalem, what kind of Orthodox can do that? but i believe there are good and bad Greeks as in every nation.
By base88888 [Affiliate User] 1210506788 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removethis is our brothers Laz dances what Greeks have adopted after they came to Georgian black sea regions. this is true and if some1 does not know enough i would suggest to search and learn before judging
By base88888 [Affiliate User] 1210506501 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removecool video
By MACEDONIAisnotHELLAS [Affiliate User] 1206764052 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveI ate wonderful baklava in Greece as well. Hard to attribute to any culture as Baklava is defined as an emperor (ottoman) desert as well.
You have also ekmek kadayifi etc, which are turkish words too :) So no point fighting, it is a common culture
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