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A short compilation of 60's adverts along with the memorable Pearl and Dean titles from the 70's. Most of these were rescued from the Queen's Hall, Seaton Delaval (a village about 9 miles from Newcastle upon Tyne).
Unfortunately, the camera's autofocus is 'hunting'. Sadly, there's no facility to defeat it! It's not too bad though.
Projection is Philips DP75 (aspect ratio 1.75:1) with Peerless Magnarcs & Marble Double Eagle carbons, supplied in abundance by Jack Roe (CS) Ltd.
And yes; that really is Jenny Hanley in the Lyons Maid Cornish Sundae advert.
Curtains the same as Continental Cinema ,Bournemouth ,Still ran on Kalee 8's till into 70's. I ran small mobile cinema using Gaumont British 516's ,fantastic robust projectors ,with curved non scratch gates,they newer gave any trouble.Sorry novices you dont Know what im talking about !!!
By jeanniedee [Affiliate User] 1214189626 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveThanks for posting these. Do you know if anyone has posted adverts with Rank Screen Advertising idents?
By phrobs [Affiliate User] 1208705333 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveMany thanks, I'm glad you like it! I'm happy to think I may have captured just a bit of the atmosphere of a 'real' cinema.
You Tube is great, though it's still not the same as viewing them in the auditorium. Most of this material is now over 40 years old and has survived remarkably well.
In particular; the Lyons Maid adverts (in Technicolor dye transfer) still look absolutely stunning when projected on the big screen!!
I loved this! Took me right back to the old 70's "pictures", when you could get a bus into a town centre cinema, rather than the characterless US style retail park shacks you get today. Thanks so much, you've made an old bird go all happy and nostalgic! x
By dontlookanthea [Affiliate User] 1208434708 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveYou've made some good points. I agree that video can never (or ever will) match the 'look' of film. Film grain has a random structure that is different for every consecutive frame (be it 24/25 fps or whatever) whereas electronic media is based upon a fixed array of pixels.
While 16mm is more than adequate for television at 720x576 you're pushing the boundaries for any kind of HDTV.
Theatrical presentation in 16mm is another matter. A 12ft screen is a sensible limit.
Well I wouldn't say 16mm was a dead duck. After all it was never intended for use in large theatres. It was mainly for television and smaller theatres. I've seen some excellent Super 16mm telecined and the results are as good as if not better than HD. Plus film has that particular look that you just cannot get with video.
By airscrew1 [Affiliate User] 1208408666 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveIt was projected with a Philips DP75 (35/70mm), at approx. 17ft wide and exactly 9ft high (fixed height and masked sides).
I've put 16mm on the same screen with Fumeo equipment. A good quality, clean 16mm print can be almost acceptable. For presentation purposes though; I think we can now regard 16mm as a dead duck!
Was this projected with a 35mm projector or 16mm? Good clip sir, I'm sitting here grinning my face off. There was a company in the UK selling Pearl & Dean openers and closers on 16mm for £20. but I never bought any at the time.
By airscrew1 [Affiliate User] 1208356348 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveAmpex, great post looks like the Tyneside Cinema if I am not mistaken, do you by any chance have the Rank Screen Advertising openning and closing the version with clouds
By neil38 [Affiliate User] 1205231649 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveMany thanks for your comment. I've twice left copies at Seaton Valley co-op but they've so far not had the courtesy to reply or acknowledge in any way. Ivanhoe Forge are still in business too but I've not contacted them as yet.
By Ampex196 [Affiliate User] 1204643237 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveGreat to see these. I alive in Seaton Delaval now but I moved here after the cinema had been demolished. Cinema had such style back then. I don't bother going to modern ones, it just aint the same. Thanks for posting these!
By bigloada1 [Affiliate User] 1204627357 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveYou did a cool job representing what I would've seen if I had been born in the UK instead!
The 24fps thing isn't so much a problem given that regular motion picture film runs at that speed anyway. If someone in the US have had this in his collection he probably would've gotten it digitally transferred at 23.97fps NTSC anyway (pitch-adjusting the sound could be done to make it more consistent).
Thanks for the comment! The auto-focusing wasn't too bad (yes, manual focusing and iris controls are a must in these situations, I've tired this over a decade ago with my 16mm collection). Seeing the opening with the curtains opening up reminded me of being 5 years old and seeing "E.T." that way back in '82 at a theater here in Toledo that had curtains in one of their rooms. Sadly I don't see that anymore and hardly go out to movies either. :-(
By sygo7g [Affiliate User] 1200138633 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveThanks for your comment.
You're absolutely right - this is 24fps straight off the screen. Sadly, I don't have access to TK. I decided on a 'theatrical' start (with tabs closed). My print is partly missing the sting so I opened up slightly late. Its a pity that the camera's autofocus started to hunt.
'geekraver' has some excellent posts - well worth a look!
Like noticing how much slower that opening theme sounds, but I would assume it would've ran at 24fps in the theaters as opposed to the PAL video standard of 25. Too bad you didn't have a way to feed the audio from the projector directly into the camera or whatever recording device was handy. Only a shame we never had anything like this in the US were advertising in cinemas was far different (often more like porting the same ads shown on TV).
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