Jesus Christ Superstar (1973) Judas' Death (18)

Wow, you're completly proving my point for me, thanks.

Using a shot gun? What is wrong with you? You're the one getting all bent out of shape over nothing. Again. Rock. Opera. From. The. Seventies. Bunch. O. Hippies. Not the second coming of some possible religeous figure from whenever.
Did I ever call you an asshole? Seriously. I think it's shrink time for you, sweety.

Also, your comment was aimmed it me, because you were using a shotgun. And you should really stop getting up in arms about people arguing over the internet. It's sad.

And I'm not being an asshole right, you're just looking in a mirror.

Maybe you should get off your horse, since you seem so content on telling people is and isn't proper.

What? I'm not sure where you're getting that I'm arguing.. stating facts, that's what I'm doing.

Budding? I believe you mean "butting". And no, it's not only "slightly related". Besides, get off your high horse, my original comment wasn't even aimed towards you, you just decided to get up in arms. You really need to calm down. IT'S A ROCK OPERA. It's not life or death so again, get over it.

You're confused about the term protagonist. A protagonist can be "good" or "bad." All a protagonist is is the central character. More so than Jesus, this film is about the torment of Judas--as the central character. He is the protagonist.

By your logic you shouldn't be budding into our argument because it's only slightly related.

So why are you arguing?

Did I say it was over the movie? No. If it was I wouldn't have said anything. It's the fact that you're arguing over something that may or may not have happened with possible figures at some point in time when the videos subject matter is rock opera. I mean, we may as well start talking about shoes, and the history of them, simply because people wore them in the movie, right? No? Then we should try sticking to the subject matter. A rocking movie with a bunch o'hippes and such.

..The point is there is one. Why? It's a movie from the freaking 70's. Talk about the movie, maybe the actors, there's no point in bitching about what some possible guy, in the possible best did/acted/behaved/whatever. That's what this vid is about.

How does this portray Judas as a protagonist? He betrayed the man who he professed his loyalty to. Does this help us understand his torment better? yes. Is he portrayed as a protagonist? No.

Watching this film, I wonder if the protaganist actually is Judas, and not - as we allow ourselves to believe - Jesus.

Did you even bother to read the argument?

The argument wasn't over the movie, it was over the nature of Judas's betrayal of Jesus.

I'm not quite sure why people are turning this vid into a religous debate and such. It's not like this movie is meant to be historically accurate. Or are we to believe Harrod was a pool party throwing playboy and that Judas came back to Jesus in a disco loving musical number? Really people, calm down. It's a movie. A movie about a man from long ago. Let's focus on the funloving songs and try not have such large hissy fits.

Are you seriously trying to have a religous argument on a rock opera with hippies in it? That's sad. Not everyone will believe in your god. So, unless you're going to start believing in Allah, Buddah, Muhammahd, and Zeus, you should really try and stop being so damn critical of people with different beliefs, "bubba".

No, what's really humorous is people can't seem to see the in inherent silliness of some of the things the bible states and how it conflicts with others.

Also, if no-one can comprehend God, why should I even bother with the any of the religions that claim to profess his will? Why should I even bother trying to be perfect like God if I don't know where to start.

What's humorous is that you actually think you are smarter than what others believe. No human can comprehend what God is all about... not one.

God chose Judas to do it because he knew thatin the future him and Jesus would be the best of friends. And Jesus asked him to do it as he was the only one strong enough to do it.
But i think Judas got into heaven as Judas did ask to be forgiven and Christ forgives all who wan't to be forgiven.

I agree with you, in this film it is really more dramatic.

This song particularly becomes gripping when Judas finishes singing a reprise of "I Don't Know How to Love Him", and he starts running up the stairs. The music in that part really gives you a chill down your spine. I sometimes quiver when I hear it. It's somewhat similar to the Crucifixion in that when both Judas and Jesus die, the sounds suddenly cut off completely. Extremely effective.

you really got to be a hater like that?

besides, if god choose me to betray my bff and they beat him... and all that happened to me... i wouldn't want to see that death that i caused. i probably would have done the same. i mean. God coming down as Jesus showed him humility so... he would understand human emotions better, and probably be sympathetic. you know? or is this not at all how you interpret the bible?

judas' death is definately more dramatic than the crucifixion

I'm also an agnostic, although I do usually find religious stories really interesting. I'm pretty sure that Superstar doesn't represent the "popular" view of Judas, but it's the one that I tend to like the best. It seems more human, and it is more understandable. It also makes for a better story, I think, than the common, more sinister, portrayal that most people adhere to.