Wushu Eagle Claw Old School Style (YINGZAHO QUAN)

Anyway my apologies to Wushu297 for the long responses. I just don't like ill-mannered people who claim to have learnt martial arts but display no humility.

Strange comment this "millions who still practise in secret". How do you know? I never said Hong Kong because I totally agree that Hong Kong's full of dance trash for the Movie industry, but some of the orignial Fujian Martial arts can now only be found in Taiwan or Malaysia. And that's a fact even the Chinese mainland Wushu people acknowledge.

And Chen style Taijiquan back in Chenjiagou seems to be quite original-as per the original pre-war records of what its like. This Shaolin stuff however is not so authentic since Shaolin was razed to the ground twice in the last 2 centuries.

No, my "argument" is that a real martial-art always teaches respect and manners. That translates to "don't underestimate the guy standing before you". Mr "Fucksargin" wants to kill my grandfather, who happens, if Fucksargin's really learning Taizhuquan, to be his senior and probably his Sifu's Senior. That's what.

In land in China, there'r real martial arts. I've seen Bajiquan which is still quite real but that was in Henan province, deep deep in-land, and Moslem.

I started the first Licensed Karate Association in China several years ago via such a painful process. I don't deny there r Sifu out there who can teach the real stuff, but 1.Not many people wanna learn it 2.Government won't fund it or issue a license. So it becomes at most a father to son thing.

I happen to have worked in Southern China the last 10 years, and yes there are many fake schools in China. If you understood the "license" you need from the local sports council before you get to start a class, if you knew the funding criteria and what they encourage what they discourage you'd know what I'm talking about.

If you really learnt Taizhuquan you should know its history and style. If you did, you'd be able to tell the difference. Does this form resemble your style? Another brainless kid from "U know Where" who thinks he's seen it all.

I don't know what's the difference between what I said which you seem to find so stupid and what "fucksargin" said which you seem to agree with. I said traditional martial arts for "piercing the armour" is lost-since people don't wear armour today. Its become an exercise rather than a martial art. I never said which is better which is worse. Obviously YOU are the stupid one.

Really? My grandfather passed away 18 years ago at 92. He used to teach Wuzhuquan, part of which included Taizhuquan. He was from Fochow and he learnt from the student of Lin Jiu Ru who learnt it from Chai Yu Ming who founded Taizhuquan and Wuzhu heyang quan, which means as far as I'm concerned your comment was really pathetic.

yeah there are tons of good martial artists all over the world, different nationalities

this is seriously your argument? wow...

dude.. thats bullshit. Have you ever been to CHina? theres alot of fake S**t but theres also alot of fuckin people man and theres just as many real schools as fake

hahahaha not to mention spears! damn this guys is stupid

Aiya!!! I don't mean I have any desire to kill, or for any person to kill. What I am saying is that in martial arts, when you reach a high standard,you gain the ability to kill with the many techniques of the various stlyes.


Of course,we are thankful that the world is relatively safer, so we can train martial arts without mentality in ancient times, although the techniques have not changed

hey.. c'mon man. Ease up on the grandpa killing.

Yes.. because in modern warfare if you are unable to penetrate chain mail, paddings, or leather based armor you're in fuckin trouble buddy

Number One: I studies Taizuquan in China and it would probably kill your grandfather any day.

Number Two: Stop trying to 'kill the civilian population'

To those who believe they still have the "real" martial arts .. lets face it.. those were lost thousands of years ago. Taiwanese styles always claim to be descendants of Shaolin or Wudang while their styles are in most cases new and invented after the cultural revolution based on 'this or that' style or 'real traditional medicine.'

While it is true that many styles have been modified, it only means that more people have the chance to learn martial arts, and also battle unemployement!

Still, so long a martial art trains the mind, spirit and body to a higher standard, it is acceptable.

I am not adding any political prejudice (just in case for any offence.

What I meant from my comment is that regardless of any race, or culture, martial arts can be learnt by anyone of any age, and that any prejudice does not exist in martial arts itself.

Sorry for any misconceptions

Since the creation of the PRC it has been a very clever marketing strategy for the people of Hong Kong, Taiwan and south East Asia to claim that they are precious jewels in a land of communist dancing trash. However, is complete BS as the mainland still holds untold millions of practitioners (millions of whom practice in secret.) While Bitches in Taiwan and HK are separated from their roots and heritage begin to invent and create their own styles to market their own personal gain.

Thank you. I think history shows us time and time again that certain traditions will always find a way to survive the most horrible of times

Sorry but that is incorrect and a political bias and has absolutely nothing to do with the martial arts. I train in china very frequently and you'd be surprised just how much tradition is still intact. It is true that alot of horrible travesties were committed during the Cultural revolution but I think that you're giving them too much credit.

Why is that necessary? The desire to kill people? I think I'm either misunderstanding you or you have an interesting WUDE