F430 Scuderia Tiff Needell Fifth Gear

fact still remains GTR rips the 430Scu round the ring, funny how the S**t AWD which bogs you down (GTR 0-60 3.5)and makes cars slow as hell by understeering and is a GT car and is less than a quarter of the price rips the true sports car. GTR's ace is the tranmission and comp controlled diffs. 430 Scu ace is the superfast tranny and comp controlled E-diff.....see a pattern here dumbass or are you american

Carrera GT is not a real porsche, anything BUT a 911 is not porsche. buying porsche is all about the sheer mechanical grip it offers.

Porsche. Ferries are overpriced, porsche offers more mechanical grip

Porsches put the engine in it's bumper because it offers the most mechanical grip.

and the fire extinguishers are for the brakes... hey, the brakes will have to give SOMETIME right?

I guess you haven't driven cars before... so let me tell you.. AWD is not that appealing, it will bog down any car and make it slow as hell and make a car understeer under EXTREME pressure(due to overloading). Nissan has it's AWD system be FR until otherwise needed. Nissan GTR is a GT car, Ferrari is a true sports car. Nice car to drive to work, but not a car to enjoy the track with, the computer distances you from the road.

You forgot to mention the F430 Scu is nearly 5 times more expensive. 5 fuckin times more expensive and it gets ripped at the ring by the "low quality nissan" (by your own admission) whats your opinion on that? (not being smartass)correct me if iam wrong but the GTR is $75kUSD and the Scu is around $350,000 is that correct?

Its actually because a car turns better on its own axis when its RWD!!

are all norwegians as ignorant as you jza007... because i have begun to notice a pattern.
the scuderia is a hand crafted work of art. with lots of heritage and passion as well as a manufacturing process and materials that are second to none. the nissan is designed to utilize every ounce of power available. but lacks in quality everywhere.
if you had a chance to drive them both you would realize that the ferrari is a car that is an extension of you. the nissan does the driving for you.

Because AWD systems are heavy and would not be well suited for a track car of a F1's caliber.

what are you talking about he's American they dont know S**t about cars!but my point is that something that is less than a 1/3 of the price is being beaten round the ring by a nissan. Do u know what the biggest ace up the scuderias sleeve is? there sophisticated new e-diff controlled by a computer....hmmmm ring any bells

sorry bud you must be thinking of American cars

we dont wont a ferrari you toss, and if AWD was so much faster than RWD then why arent F1 carts ever AWD?

Yeah, but the question many people look for is, which one is more fun to drive? The GT-R is then thrown out the window. The GT-R exhaust also sound like crap. I hope you have fun driving the heavy pig around. I will admit that it does post amazing lap times though.

i dont want to choose one way or the other but the GT-R is just to technologicly sophisticated to be a reliable car...too many things to go wrong.

true true its not like you get a hand crafted skyline init