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From the documentary, Living with tigers comes this exciting video of 2 bengal / siberian tiger hybrids called Ron and Julie being "rewilded" in Africa.
In this video, Ron chase away an adult white rhinoceros and later both of them hunt down a porcupine successfully, enjoy.
Featuring Dave Salmoni
Ratings and Comments are greatly welcomed.
Read more about the project here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bengal_Tiger#Re-wilding_project_in_South_Africa
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it was said on the documentary that ron weighed 500 lbs, the tigress was said to be 385 lbs.
dave has mentioned a 550 lb lion which has attacked him (in the same documentary) and, on planet carnivore, there was a lion said to be 500 lbs also.
dale said in an email that the makles he weighed were under 500 lbs, and closer to 400, and not one of the males he weighed measured over 475 lbs.
statements 'saying' tigers are larger isn`t really proof....it needs to be supported with evidence, which i find very little of.
it try to find a list of animals weighed in the wild, and compare notes. most of the time, a scientists knowledge is based on that which he has learned from books or even his own studies....which may be limited.
He is doing thing for good tv, and for fame. The tigers are not released, they didn't hunt that porcupine, the porcupine was put in their cage so that they get quails all over their body for this scene. I have evidence to prove what i am saying.
You admire a liar? He lied that the tigers are purebred, he lied that the tigers are released, he lied that the project is about conservation. And what does he get now? Fame.
I can show you evidence, and the truth about this documentary.
Oh geez, are we really arguing who wins in a fight between a lion and a tiger? Are we six years old? My dad's bigger than yours? Both are beautiful animals, worthy of our protection. I think this guy's crazy, but I admire what he's doing.
By AfricanButtScratcha [Affiliate User] 1213086450 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removelook how obese Ron is.. he is obvioulsy at least 550lbs. Tigers are bigger than lions, both in captivity and in the wild. You could email any experts to ask.
By Shuaige12 [Affiliate User] 1213053458 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveWrong, accorrding to Dale, Siberian Tigers average at least 430lbs currently. Lions on the other hand average around 181kg. next even Brander says Tigers are heavier than lions.
There is no need to show me any information, it is a worldwide fact that Tigers are indeed heavier than Lions!
Those experts that you mention, why don't you email them and ask who they think is larger instead of just asking weights??
Come on Brentlion, don't be a loser to deny facts.
dave salmoni has mentioned the weight of a few of his lions...in which he says a 550 lb lion attacked him, while the tiger, ron, was said in 'living with tigers', to weigh about 500 lbs.
dave made such a statement based on outlandish claims, but not his own measurements. i could show you sources mentioning the weights of both captive and wild lions and tigers, if you want. tigers are no bigger than lions.
according to dale, the average siberian weighs close to 400 lbs. guggisberg reports a average of 190 kg for bengals...190 kg reported for kruger lions, and packer says lions of the ngorongoro crater weigh over 200 kg.
the heaviest nepal tiger weighed 600 lbs, while the heaviest kruger lion was also 600 lbs.
lions of the malamala game reserve average 580 lbs.
the lions of duba are also said, by the joubert couple, to be the biggest lions they`ve seen.
shuaige 12, clyde actually favors the lion! i have his book, the big cage, in which he says the lion is the most likely winner. he did mention a few tigers which were awesome fighters, but also said that his lion, sultan,was the most formidable cat he ever saw.
clyde said that lions were the better fighters, and his lion, sultan, took on and whipped every one of his tigers.
dave salmoni favors the tiger, i could mention zoo keepers which favor the lion, if you want.
Loser, craig packer supports and favors the Tiger. I went to his recent seminar and sat at the front row, the first question i asked was;" Who did you favor in a fight between a tiger and a lion." He said Tiger! Loser ass S**t brenton!
Show me your source if you dare. All of them,.
Naruto Lord, would you mind telling other tiger fans to get here to get rid of Brentlion all together? he is such a loser.
By Shuaige12 [Affiliate User] 1212913605 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveBrentlion, you are a loser, Tiger OWNS Lion forever!! Clyde beatty favors the tiger, John Varty favors the Tiger, Randy miller favors the Tiger, zookeepers worldwide favors the tiger. loser, debate with me if you dare!
By Shuaige12 [Affiliate User] 1212913556 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveBack in the days, animal planet had good docs, even better than nat geo, now in this days, they have pure S**t .
By superkamelnacif [Affiliate User] 1212839123 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveThere's no need for debate, any expert would tell you that Tigers are bigger than lions, you are the only guy on Earth who overestimate yourself and think everything you said is right. Even Dave Salmoni says that Tigers are heavier than lions in captivity. There is no debate at all in terms of captive animals. And in terms of wild animals, only the crater lion can be compared to an average indian tiger but they aren't the same league as a northen bengal. Loser!
By PTigris7 [Affiliate User] 1212529305 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveCraig Packer also said that if both have a rich diet, the Siberian Tiger would grow bigger.
By PTigris7 [Affiliate User] 1212529165 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveNepalese tigers average 517 lbs. Kazinga Park Tigers average 525 lbs. Norther Bengal Tigers Average 550 - 600 lbs. Kalahari Lions average 440 lbs. South African Lions average 485 lbs. Northern Siberian Tigers average 480 lbs. Southern Siberian Tigers average 600 lbs. All from accurate reasearch and websites.
By XNarutoXLordX [Affiliate User] 1212511122 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removedamn it, this guy is crazy, that tiger was so close to his head, he´s got balls.
By skwinkle79 [Affiliate User] 1212441634 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removeio already emailed craig packer, and he said that the chest girth he provided from ngorongoro lions were as large as those of siberians, and then he goes on to say that tigers with a similarly rich diet may well be larger....but this is only speculation.
a tiger`s jaw strength has never been measured. that chart on bfq was merely estimates, not an actual study.
i can show you my sources, if you like. just ask.
tigers aren`t larger than lions. recent studies made by dale miquelle has found that the average siberian weighs close to 400 lbs.
peter jackson, another expert, says lions and tigers are the same size.
according to brander, the average bengal weighs about 420 lbs. kalahari lions are said to average over 200 kg, while lions in other areas are reported to average as much as 225 kg, similar to tigers in other, more fertile areas.
i could show more info on tiger size, if you want.
Email Craig Packer or any expert you know. Even experts who favor the lion like Dave Salmoni says that tigers have a stronger bite force, and i am saying bfq not canine bf. You can say whatever you want, boldchamp, damon, jimmy but the fact remains that you have no evidence at all to prove your cause and no one takes you seriously, honestly.
By PTigris7 [Affiliate User] 1212347042 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveHe said that at the same size and weight, it would be foolish to bet for the lion. Yup, sultan is powerful but does that mean that there is no other tigers better than him? It is a known fact that clyde beatty mentions that his lions are larger than his tigers while seems to be weird since Tigers are in general larger than lions in captivity so i am not surprised that his lions defeat his tigers since his tigers is small and size advantage is very important.
By PTigris7 [Affiliate User] 1212346915 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removebut he also said that in a finish fight, he would bet his money on the lion. he never mentioned any tiger victory in 'the big cage'. he did mention a few tigers which were awesome fighters, but no true victory.
i`m not saying that the tigers never defeated the lions, just that he never mentioned this in that particular book. but he also stated that sultan was the most powerful animal he came across, and he said this animal defeated every one of his tigers.
tigers do NOT have a more powerful bite force. tigers jaws are shorter, so they may have a stronger bite at the canines, where the teeth is longer. however, the most force comes from the carnassials, the size of which being directly related to the size of the jaws, which is bigger in lions. bigger teeth means there`s greater surface area to bite from.
also, lions have proportionately longer jaws, which means they have more room(at the back of skull) for muscle developement.
i agree one person who actualy now's wot there talking about
By yianni7787 [Affiliate User] 1212291782 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveThe point is that did that study try to measure the bite force of a tiger? If i remember correctly, the study did not even mention about the tiger, unless it mentions both the tiger and the lion or else how could you make comparison from different sourceS?
It is a known fact that Tigers have stronger jaws than lions, even ur favorite AFO admits that. So what are lionfans going to argue next? Lions have more stripes? LMAO
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