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First look at the EBD Dry Cell assembled. (Energy Builders Network)
All in all, I am still very happy with the cell. No missing hardware. Relatively easy assembly even if it was a bit tedious.
Variations from the default construction:
- 3/8" lower feeder port instead of the default 1/4" barb.
- Plates were installed in alternating fashion so that all terminal connections are available to be used as needed without the requirement of reassembling the plates for different configurations.
- Assembly bolts were oriented to come out the back away from the feeder and output ports. Intended for solving a mounting issue.
Issues that had to be dealt with:
- Both input and output ports needed to be cleaned out by hand with a 1/4" NPT tap prior to plate assembly. Not a show stopper, but neither barb fitting would start in the threads by hand.
Sounds good, Thanks. If the cell design added 2 more bolts, one on the top and one on the bottom equal spaced from the fittings you would be able to use the most out of the cell design along with having the stainless plates and the end plate inlet and output holes line up without getting the bolt holes too close to the fitting holes to make the design weak in this area.Just my 2 cents.
By fedextech [Affiliate User] 1219712315 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveI did not notice. (well... pay attention actually)
I have been thinking of redoing the end plates anyway. It needs a larger area to allow gas to escape.
I hadn't worked out the details just yet, but I am thinking it needs maybe 3/4" ports on both sides feeding a 1" line.
It works well now so haven't focused on that change much yet.
I am more intent on just installing one of my systems on the racecar first.
I'll worry about tweaking it later.
I got one of the EBN cells today and during assembly I noticed that the input and output fitting holes do not line up with the stainless plate holes, about 1/2 or more of a hole off. Is your cell set up the same way? If the upper and lower attach bolt holes were drilled off center the fitting holes in the end plates could have been drilled to line up with the stainless plate holes.
By fedextech [Affiliate User] 1219682309 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveBetter name. A real gentleman you are.
Thanks.
Its hard to call it a flaw by itself.
More like an unanticipated development. ;-)
Interesting..flaw? in the design that suggests that HHO does not exit fast enough...
Wouldn't it be cool if one could actually see how and exactly where the bubbles are:
-forming on the plate
-where they are being moved the most efficiently off the plate (possibly areas along the plate close to center?)
-how much and how effectively the bubbles are entering into the exit tube (perhaps more entry holes the whole way along the bottom and more exit holes along the top?..perfection still yet 2bhad?
Thank you.
By lutherp40 [Affiliate User] 1219573306 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveUnder different circumstances, sanding and dimpling the plates may in fact be advantageous.
I just think it is premature to create even more gas when you can't get the gas you already have out of the cell fast enough.
One thing this cell does not have a problem with is its ability to produce a lot of gas in a very short period of time.
Its current primary problem is that it can not relieve itself of the gas it has already created fast enough so that it can produce even more gas.
Until you successfully deal with that mechanical problem, sanding or dimpling the plates is NOT required.
At $10 per plate, you really think long and hard about changing the finish to something that can not be undone.
Very good.
Boyce and Smack suggest that roughing up the surface will facilitate the breaking off of bubbles faster from the surface, and increasing surface area, 2 things that might improve efficiency. I wonder if you might get even 7+mmw...that perhaps perfection is really yet to be had.....Just thinking.... ;)
Nice Video.
I'm waiting for my unit to arrive.
For d3adp001 & SmartScarecrow: How much is 10g in teaspoons?
For lukeoid153: The sanding may be OK, although some have said it wasn't worth the effort. I think the pounding and dimpling is a definite no-no. On a plate this large, I would be afraid of the plates warping enough to touch each other.
Also. You might consider 91% Isopropyl Alcohol, leaves less residue. Walgreens has it.
Racer 426
Keep in mind that I am getting 6+ MMW numbers straight out of the box.
Its hard to justify messing with perfection. :-)
I considered sanding, but I don't think you need that trick. This cell will crank out as much gas as you have the nerve to push it.
As for prepping the plates, these are 316L and really there isn't much iron that can leach out of the plates. It runs clean.
It makes more sense to condition the plates if you are using 302 0r 304 stainless than it does for 316L.
I ask because I wonder if the preparation principles that Bob Boyce and Smack use may be helpful in doing more: improving efficiency etc.
...sanding in a cross pattern, pounding/roughing the surface...
Lukeoid153
Thank you for the props and kudos.
- I cleansed the plates, gaskets and end plates with Isopropyl rubbing alcohol (70%) using paper towels as I assembled each piece.
- At the time that I ordered my kit, they only offered the kit and the pre-built model. No optional accessories.
You should check out the Energy Builders network.
Great job L.
Couple q's:
-how did you prep the plates?
-does EBN have available gaskets of diffent thickness available?
Very much appreciate your work!
Lukeoid153
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