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Tung Yingchieh, founder of Tung Style Taichi. Tung Ying Chieh was a student of Yang Chenfu. He was the creator of Tung Style Taichi, and performs his slow set in both pieces of the footage. The first part was filmed in 1950 and the second was filmed in 1945.
I am in agreement, I have and continue to study under very well respected masters of the same lineage, all of them with their own "style." I was told that this is the way, and to me it makes sense. Just as you pointed out, it's also what I was told. Things should always evolve, as long as the principles remain.
By Aetherus7 [Affiliate User] 1195616219 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveFor good examples of this, look up the Youtube videos of Wu Yinghua, Hao Shaoru, Sun Jianyun and the Yang brothers Zhenji and Zhenduo for a few more examples. Very different, yet each highly accomplished.
By Loyaute [Affiliate User] 1195568498 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveYes, that is true. From what I was told they are expected to. I have seen different forms from brother and sister, Eddie Wu Kuangyu and Cynthia Wu Xiaofeng, the same generation and the same teachers, yet their forms weren't identical.
What matters is if the technical requirements are present, peng, lu, ji an, etc. expressed smoothly and continuously.
From what I have seen, most Grandmasters are pretty much expected to present their own "flavor" or even put together their own arrangement before becoming a Grandmaster. It makes sense, the principles are there, but the arrangement is fresh and as with all things, there should be some evolution.
By Aetherus7 [Affiliate User] 1195550591 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveYang Shaohou also taught Wu Gongyi and Wu Gongzao, the sons of Wu Jianquan, when they were young. Yang Shaohou is held in very high regard by Wu stylists of their lineage. The tradition is that Shaohou was very much like his uncle, Yang Banhou, in temperament.
By Loyaute [Affiliate User] 1195525185 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removeit's his interpretation, everything evolves. we learn a music scale and principles, but create our own music, right?
By Aetherus7 [Affiliate User] 1195458442 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveI practice a Yang Shouhao lineage. Professor Huo Chi Kwang and Grandmaster Lu Hung Ping taught it in the U.S.
By Aetherus7 [Affiliate User] 1195457999 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveTung Ying-Chieh was the teaching assistant of Yang Cheng-Fu. He is performing the second section of the Yang Long Form. Also I disagree with the "about this" video he is one of the only people to pass on the true yang cheng-fu long form, not the Tung form. As of now his student Chun Tin, (may be spelled incorrectly) is still teaching traditional Yang Long form in Hong Kong.
By benjimatt [Affiliate User] 1195182875 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveIt's a matter of personalization. Many instructors take what they do well and make a form out of it. They do this to practice and hone their best moves and skills. After a while this is all they practice and in some cases this is what they pass on to their top students.
By Ryooken [Affiliate User] 1194445048 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemovePeople who reach a high level outside of the families eventually have their own schools. Tung (Dong), Fu, even Chen Man-ch'ing for Yang Chengfu. People who reach a high level in the original families can teach very different forms, but they are subsumed into whatever original style.
Modern Chen, Yang, Wu look very different now than 150 years ago.
All Taijiquan masters do create their own style, even within the orthodox families.
Yang Chengfu wasn't the same as Yang Shaohao, which was "real" Yang style? Shaohao was the older brother, after all. Chengfu had more students, though. Shaohao's lineage is still going in China, but it is still Yang style even if it is different.
so what is the point of this? why create this when it retains 99% of yang style? what if all taiji folks create their own style, and 99% of it follows the original.
By wusuwusu [Affiliate User] 1192758011 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveHes a well known disciple of Yang Cheng Fu right?
By JianChuanTaiChi [Affiliate User] 1190648602 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removeno thats second section with the three kicks in a row and the punch to groin brush knees
By drdankness [Affiliate User] 1185254582 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removethe third!
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