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Continuation of the worst plane crash in the history of Aviation at Tenerife.
I have read a lot about this crash in aviation literature. Almost all air crashes are caused by a combination of different factors, and this one is no exception. If there hadn't been fog on the runway, if they haven't had to divert to Tenerife because of the bomb in the other airport, if the ATC hadn't been inexperienced...don't just rely on this documentary to tell the whole, absolute truth.
By lexo30 [Affiliate User] 1224849453 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemovePan am did the right thing KLM did the wrong thing
By xxmmmmxx666 [Affiliate User] 1224706895 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveHow do you know this?
By Jagermeister196 [Affiliate User] 1224685916 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveLike I said, this crash was not caused solely by the KLM pilot. You need to read about it in more detail. Back then, guidelines were sloppier and standards of competence in English for Spanish ATCs were lower. Don't blame it all on the KLM pilot.
By lexo30 [Affiliate User] 1224500562 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveThe KLM pilot was in a hurry to take off, but the ATC was not clear enough in his instructions, and the KLM pilot missed a crucial radio message because of interference. A lot of things caused this crash, and it wasn't just the KLM pilot's impatience.
By lexo30 [Affiliate User] 1224500473 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveThrough his incompetence he killed many lives. That is not brave. He attempted to fly over pan am, cause he had no bloody choice!!
By nursling07 [Affiliate User] 1224490181 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removea of mistakes were made yes, but it still keeps coming back to the main point. golden rule number one: if no clearance has been given, u NEVER take off. and that includes communication problems. Don't take off unless it's CLEAR very CLEAR!!
By nursling07 [Affiliate User] 1224490052 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveYeah right, then who the hell instructed KLM 2 take off? They didn't have tower clearance!! It was clear whose mistake it was. Despite whatever the circumstances there were then; fog, bomb threat, bad ATC English (as if the Dutch spoke good English...hell), KLM pilot took off without clearance. It was that simple to figure it out. Unauthorized take off that led to fatal crash just because KLM Captain wanted to avoid putting a night in Canarias and saving tons of money for his KLM. My ass!
By casalumina [Affiliate User] 1224159784 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removeits not pan-am's fault at all or ATC (air traffic control) its the captain of the KLM's fault as he did not have permision to take off its that simple if he had waited to get permision the pan-am would have got off the runway and have been on the taxiway by then but no he was impationant and he caused the hole accerdent end of
By imemutch123456789 [Affiliate User] 1224098019 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removenoones blaming the dutch,just the pilot of the klm plane who is so obviously to blame!!open your eyes, precisely that half brain "f you" attitudue that caused it !!dummy
By trick1230Y [Affiliate User] 1224093234 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down Removeboth planes are at fault.pam-am should have stay put off the runway. because of the fog over the airport runway.klm should have asked for the clearing of the pam-am that was on the airport runway by pam-am by control tower.
By msjr777 [Affiliate User] 1224029453 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveWhats important to see, that even though this was an EXTREMELY tragic and horrible event, changes are made. Because of human error lessons are learned. Airlines now implement crew tactic and training to avoid hostile situations like the one created by the KLM pilot, rarely would that attitude last or go un-checked in todays airline industry.. I trust fully in my pilots, and if i felt ever that they would put me in a dangerous situation, i wouldn't be flying that day.
Love from NWA
Was the fault of the captain of KLM because he was very agressive
By 18daryus [Affiliate User] 1223727277 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveThank you Charleston Air Force Base and members of the C-141 flying squadrons of the 437th / 315 MAW for air medivacing our citizens out of there!
By IdolHans [Affiliate User] 1223697810 Reply Spam [+0] Moderate Up Moderate Down RemoveIt's not the fault of the KLM, because the guys in the ATC weren't very clear (because their english was really bad) and the Pan am didn't taxi right. So please, don't blame the Dutch.
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