2008 Jones Beach Airshow - F-22 Raptor & Heritage Flight

Your statement: you're both wrong; its not considered a Stealth

My reply: Tell that to Lockheed Martin. It's marketed as a 5th generation fighter with a stealth configured fuselage. You're right that it's not a steatlth bomber, but you're grossly mistaken it's not stealth. It's not superior radar technology that increases it's effective range for targeting, it is the ability of the plane to "not appear" on their radar screens.

your both wrong, its not considered a Stealth Jet.. so there is no way it can be stealth..

plus the B-2 owns anything becuase of the lack of noise, and speed

EVariation is right... there's nothing that'll touch the F-22, especially when it runs in its stealth configuration (all gear and weapons within the fuselage).

You're right, but who's Paul Moga?

I work on the F119 Core Integrated Product Team program at P&W. I work with the fuel nozzles, combustors, and diffuser cases tracking performance and simulating part aging. As a veteran, it's a phenominal place to be. I really enjoy working on this project and the F135. The people I work with at P&W are just as great as the projects!

Actually those Pratt & Whitney F119's actually produce 37,000+ pounds of thrust each! Heard that directly from the mouth of Pual "Max" Moga! That's a thrust to weight ratio around 1.48 to 1...

I was working there (with the NG recruiters) and this is the most amazing aircraft I've ever seen. A couple days before, I was in a blackhawk, I was wondering what was holding up our take off. I looked out the window, and there were the F-22s right next to us on the taxiway. Nice.

I attended this one, which was a great show..thanks for the posting..what a gorgeous day it was, as reflected in your camera..great footage

B2 is a bomber, HTF would it own a fighter??? A fighter would run circles around it and blow it out of the sky with ease. B2 is stealthy, but no invisible to radar, certainly not the latest radar tech. B2 is like a solid gold Rolls Royce. $1.2 billion each, lol. What an efficient management of resources.

EVariation.. your wrong.. the B-2 Stealth Bomber owns ANYTHING in the skys, or ground

Whats amazing is that this is just what they want us to see. You can only imagine what this thing can really do in high altitudes and at higher speeds.

Its quite interesting to compare a 55 year old British Hawker Hunter to the F22 display in this video.

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Nice fly!

F-22 owns anything in the skies.

"Rail" thrust vectoring coupled with RAM/SCRAM technologies makes this look like the Cub Scouts. A skater can spin extremely fast by tucking in his or her arms. The lethal fighter of the future will turn on a dime with its engines on "rails" so they can create a tighter axis, will use RAM/SCRAM engines and "ride" a plasma wave/high freq "beam" that will vastly reduce drag. Piloted speeds of Mach 4-6 will be commonplace and unmanned hyperspeeds of Mach 13 will be realized.

i was there on 05/25/08 it was better than i thought it would be ,by 10a.m. it was packed ,got sunburn on legs,also i thank an older couple who gave me a jump start for my car,thank u.

this was so loud at the show x]

That has an amazing stall threshhold, thanks for posting

"Power enables you the unmatched ability to do what ever you want in a dogfight"! Absolutely man! Especially in recovery and the vertical fight! Nice to see somebody here on "boobtube" understands fighter tech and are not subject to the blind & foolish slobbering over of their favorite countries' fighter planes...

For comparison. The Typhoon and Rafael have around a 1.0:1 to 1.1:1 ratio. The SU-27 has about the same as those two. The Typhoon and Rafael are small compared to the F-22 and SU-27.

How about this

The Rafaels two M88 engines have a combined max thrust of 34,000lbs

The Typhoons two EJ200 engines have a combined max thrust of 40,000lbs.

One F119 engine that powers the F-22 has 37,000lbs of thrust!!!

Power enables you the unmatched ability to do what ever you want in a dog fight!

No problem PsiBrr. I work for Pratt & Whitney so i'm up to date when it comes to engine ratings from all the manufacturers ;-)

Within 7-10 years you will see F-22's with 80,000lbs+ of thrust, so the thrust to weight ratio will be "atleast" 1.55:1!
Air to air scenario for the F-22 mission is- full internal fuel (25,000lbs), 6- Aim 120c/d's (350lbs each), 2-Aim 9x's (200lbs each) 480 rnds of 20mm (600lbs+) The F-22 empty is under 27,000lbs for just under 55,500lbs+ at takeoff!

Great camera work! I was at that show, and while no video could ever truly capture the thrill and actually being there, this one is as close as they come. Thanks for posting it!

oh yeah just did the math....thats like 2 older airliner engines

But the F-22 has TWO of them. That's 70k+ thrust...

jjs4you2, thanks for the correction on the F-18. The F-100 powers both the F-15 and the F-16.

oh ok

damn 42,000 lbs thats up there with the f-15