MLM: Who's Lying?

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Are you getting the wrong information about MLM? Tim Sales digs in and asks the question: Is the advice you're taking really a lie? Is the management of some network marketing company hiding the information you need? Learn how to determine if the information you've been given about network marketing is valid.

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MLM: Who's Lying?

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  • I hope these videos ...

    I hope these videos will stay up here for a long, long time. They are excellent and very helpful in presenting third party facts to our team and prospects and social partners alike.

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  • Another logical ...

    Another logical fallacy he makes regarding the article he read is that by suggesting that the author has no experience in MLM, that his or her observations on the exponential recruitment model can not possibly be accurate (another reason to undermine education). Yet the validity of a mathematical concept does not depend on anyone's opinion or experience. If it expands at a geometric rate, with a corresponding market shrinkage, it does so regardless of anyone's wishes or experience.

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  • He points out that ...

    He points out that people who write about and/or teach certain subjects do so because they can not do what they write about and/or teach. Setting aside for a moment his calmly stated insult, he is also implying that education is useless. He's pitting education against experience and asking people to choose only experience. He fails, or refuses, to mention that each can build on the strength of the other. Companies who seek employees look for both qualities.

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  • When he mentions ...

    When he mentions the article about the recruitment model, he doesn't refute the point made by the author by making any direct attempt to disprove it. Instead, he just points out that the author never tried it, and therefore must be unqualified to criticize it. He then compares math to science, as if a mathematical concept and a scientific theory are the same thing. I know of no mathematical concept that, once proved mathematically, has been disproven mathematically.

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  • This video is rife ...

    This video is rife with logical fallacies. Tim Sales states, for instance, that the comparison to casino odds is taken out of context. Yet he takes it out of context by refusing to note how the comparison is drawn from a critics' understanding of the geometric recruitment model. When he finally does mention the model, it isn't in reference to the casino odds, but just to state that in an article he once read someone said the model leads to failure.

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  • I've noticed, and ...

    I've noticed, and not just from this video but from others too, that there are three groups of people who are unqualified to criticize MLM: 1) Those who have never tried it, 2) Those who tried it and failed, and 2) Those who tried it, succeeded, then turned around and quit for whatever reason. The last group is considered unqualified due to hypocrisy. I think it's rather convenient that this list includes literally everybody on Earth, and I suspect that it was meant to include everyone.

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  • Utter Rubbish! In ...

    Utter Rubbish! In an MLM company your upline will make no money unless you succeed. Your comment assumes that there are a finite number of positions in the company, and there are not (other than the 6Bn world population - no compan there yet!). In this industry it is possible for me to introduce someone who goes on to do better than me at it and for me to better off as a result - indeed it should be my itention for everyone I introduce to do at least as well or even btter than I'm doing.

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  • Tim, Thank You! ...

    Tim,

    Thank You! You present yourself very well and speak clearly!

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  • I have absolutely ...

    I have absolutely no affiliation with this guy, but I know that he has consistently earned several hundred thousand dollars a year for several years. If I have to choose who I'm going to listen to, I think I'll follow those who are succeeding. By the way, did you know that Warren Buffet, Donald Trump, Robert Kiyosaki all agree that Network Marketing is a completely legitimate industry and the best possible option for most people to get a real shot at real success. Just food for thought.

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  • some interesting ...

    some interesting food for thought there

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  • If someone is ...

    If someone is successful he will not tell you how he became successful because then others could become successful and basically take his job.

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  • Taking advice of ...

    Taking advice of people that have been successfully does not necessarily mean it will work for you. Besides are you even successful for us to even listen to you. I mean i can go and make a video, be all dressed up, sit in a nice looking office without really being successful and basically spew half bullshit, half logic. People will still believe you. You have to ask yourself why is that person doing this? Perhaps he is doing this for some kind of benefit.

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  • Well presented and ...

    Well presented and straight talking so was very helpful and encouraging to me as a 1st time MLM buisness builder. I listened with my upline friend as her internet is faster.

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  • It's always good to ...

    It's always good to see good videos thankx for sharing this info...

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  • yall non believers ...

    yall non believers take that!!

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